Is the ignorant person excused in matters of creed?
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The questioner: Questioning Allah... .
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: Ignorance of the creed, in the sense of texts regarding the ignorant person in creed?
The Shaykh: I think we have hinted at something of this.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: ... the verse:[Al-Isra 17:15] .
The Shaykh: Yes, let me tell you something that might be a bit strange; when is one excused and when is one not excused? If a Muslim lives in an Islamic society, and an Islamic society of the kind where we do not need to argue about it and say that the appearance of Islam is like our current reality, but rather true Islam, then when there is a Muslim in an Islamic society, and the Islamic creeds in this society are unified, widespread, and apparent; in this case, the ignorant person is not excused regarding the creed or regarding any of the Islamic creeds. But it is not so in our society now, a society that is ignorant and divided into old and new sects and parties; where is this common person to take the creed from? Where is he to become acquainted with it? Only... the creed, if it exists... then the gathering was not found in a society that harvests from... the creed and enables him to become acquainted with it. This is with regard to the creeds that are the fundamental ones, but it may happen that a person is presented with an idea that contradicts all his previous creed, but he does not notice that it is contrary to the creed.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: No, it is fine... the professor... I felt he was upset, rest now.
Another questioner : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
It issues from him an action, and if we deduce the implication of this action, it indicates to us a belief of disbelief, and yet we find... from his Lord - Blessed and Exalted is He - , the evidence for this type is a hadith in "the two Sahihs" where he - peace and blessings be upon him - said: They said: The best of fathers. He said: Indeed, I am a sinner with my Lord, and if Allah has power over me, He will surely punish me with a severe punishment. So when I die, burn me with fire, then scatter half of me in the wind and half in the sea. He claimed that he would thus be lost from his Lord!! So when he died, they burned him with fire and distributed half of him in the sea and half in the wind, so Allah - Blessed and Exalted is He - said to his particles: Be so-and-so, and he was. Then He - the Exalted - said: O My servant, what drove you to what you did? He said: O Lord, I feared You. He said: Go, for I have forgiven you .
So we see that he fell into creedal disbelief, not just practical disbelief, because if it were, by Allah, just a material appearance, an action that returns to the previous state, but he... ordered this unjust process, he even could not have Allah gather him, meaning... in the punishment to be rid of the punishment, yet Allah - Mighty and Majestic - found for him an excuse, knowing from his heart that this person, out of his fear of his Lord and his admission of his sin, how did he remain wanting to be rid of the painful punishment? He bequeathed this unjust bequest, so Allah forgave him; because he did it out of fear of the sin; this image was narrated by the Messenger - peace be upon him - and he is the truthful and trustworthy one.
The questioner: In this aspect... fundamental in the creed? In this aspect of the creed, is it considered among the fundamentals?
The Shaykh: I did not say that.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: I paved the way. Yes, I paved the way for the hadith; I said: Let him do the action that negates his previous creed, but when he did it, something overcame him that blinded him to this truth, and it is as it was reported.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Therefore - my brother - our Lord - Mighty and Majestic - is Gentle and Merciful, meaning He always accepts the excuses of His servants, so we, from the perspective of the unseen, it is not a very big issue regarding these disbelievers, but for us it is an issue so that we do not sit declaring people disbelievers, as you know: ; so if we mention the rule that we agreed upon, and we also notice this addition, you will see the circle of takfir.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: ... on what? It is narrowing on us, and it is narrowing, and this is a gain, not a loss in the narrowing; meaning it is better for a person to err in not declaring someone a disbeliever than to... .
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: La ilaha illa Allah, make it... for this religion, when it was made jurisprudence for this religion, meaning was it intended for the person to say it while knowing its meaning, or?
The Shaykh: Or do you intend that he knows its meaning, believes in its meaning, and responds to the implications of its meaning.
I delivered a speech in the mosque today, I do not know what the name of this mosque is?
Another questioner: The mosque of 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
The Shaykh: 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
So I explained His saying - the Exalted - :[Al-Kahf 18:110] ... in the verse, a human being, so I rambled around proving that the Messenger is a human being, there are verses and hadiths in that, and... from this, falsehood is not attributed to the Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - in the name of exaltation and sanctification; like someone who says - for example - :
"Muhammad is a human, not like humans *** ... ... ... "
Yes?
The questioner: But he is a ruby.
The Shaykh: "But he is a ruby, and people are like stones"
Another questioner: And they say... .
The Shaykh: I said that Muhammad, from his humanity, is that he is like... women... it is not so, and he was injured and struck and... and so on, and he married and performed ghusl from janabah, and so on these known facts, that to prove the truth of His saying - the Exalted - :[Al-Kahf 18:110] , so it is an exaggeration that some people say the Messenger was not born from there, but from under his mother's armpit, why? Because the Messenger is more sacred than to be born from that place... .
So we must understand the Qur'anic text without extremism, neither excess nor negligence;[Al-Kahf 18:110] , we need to treat the Messenger - peace and blessings be upon him - in what comes after his saying: , it is obligatory to believe that Allah chose him for his message and prophethood, and so on, and we spoke, may Allah will it, what was revealed to him? , do you know what the deity is? It does not mean... the Lord plus a deity worshipped in truth, and we saw the verse that this blessed phrase, the good word, La ilaha illa Allah means no deity worshipped in truth except Allah, it necessitates that a person, if he wants to be a true monotheist believing in this blessed phrase, must manifest the oneness of lordship, the oneness of worship, and what is called the oneness of worship, and the oneness of attributes.
And we explained - also - and gave in the context of the speech the oneness of worship and the oneness of attributes verses by "al-Busiri":
"For from Your generosity is the world and its harm *** And from Your knowledge is the knowledge of the Tablet and the Pen"
"From Your knowledge"!! We obligated the verses and hadiths that explicitly state that... is with Allah, and among that is the saying of the Messenger to the slave girl who said: "And among us is a Prophet who knows what is in tomorrow." He said: , and so on. Then we spoke about the rest of the verse: [Al-Kahf 18:110] , we told them: Shirk is of two types, major shirk, minor shirk, major shirk is what contradicts the worship of Allah - Mighty and Majestic - and calling upon Him as one calls upon others, and so on. And minor shirk includes showing off in worship, and we spoke about sincerity, and so on.
Therefore, it is not sufficient to say La ilaha illa Allah without understanding; understanding is necessary, but understanding is not sufficient without faith and belief, then one should not stand in the way of this tawhid with what contradicts and opposes it, like shirk and idolatry... .
Yes?
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner: Ignorance of the creed, in the sense of texts regarding the ignorant person in creed?
The Shaykh: I think we have hinted at something of this.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... .
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: ... the verse:
And never would We punish
وَمَا كُنَّا مُعَذِّبِينَThe Shaykh: Yes, let me tell you something that might be a bit strange; when is one excused and when is one not excused? If a Muslim lives in an Islamic society, and an Islamic society of the kind where we do not need to argue about it and say that the appearance of Islam is like our current reality, but rather true Islam, then when there is a Muslim in an Islamic society, and the Islamic creeds in this society are unified, widespread, and apparent; in this case, the ignorant person is not excused regarding the creed or regarding any of the Islamic creeds. But it is not so in our society now, a society that is ignorant and divided into old and new sects and parties; where is this common person to take the creed from? Where is he to become acquainted with it? Only... the creed, if it exists... then the gathering was not found in a society that harvests from... the creed and enables him to become acquainted with it. This is with regard to the creeds that are the fundamental ones, but it may happen that a person is presented with an idea that contradicts all his previous creed, but he does not notice that it is contrary to the creed.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: No, it is fine... the professor... I felt he was upset, rest now.
Another questioner : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
It issues from him an action, and if we deduce the implication of this action, it indicates to us a belief of disbelief, and yet we find... from his Lord - Blessed and Exalted is He - , the evidence for this type is a hadith in "the two Sahihs" where he - peace and blessings be upon him - said:
There was among those before you a man who had never done any good, so he gathered his sons around him and said to them: What kind of father was I to you?
كان فيمَن قبلكم رجلٌ لم يعمَلْ خيرًا قط ، فجَمَعَ بنيهِ حوله فقال لهم : أيُّ أبٍ كنتُ لكم ؟So we see that he fell into creedal disbelief, not just practical disbelief, because if it were, by Allah, just a material appearance, an action that returns to the previous state, but he... ordered this unjust process, he even could not have Allah gather him, meaning... in the punishment to be rid of the punishment, yet Allah - Mighty and Majestic - found for him an excuse, knowing from his heart that this person, out of his fear of his Lord and his admission of his sin, how did he remain wanting to be rid of the painful punishment? He bequeathed this unjust bequest, so Allah forgave him; because he did it out of fear of the sin; this image was narrated by the Messenger - peace be upon him - and he is the truthful and trustworthy one.
The questioner: In this aspect... fundamental in the creed? In this aspect of the creed, is it considered among the fundamentals?
The Shaykh: I did not say that.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: I paved the way. Yes, I paved the way for the hadith; I said: Let him do the action that negates his previous creed, but when he did it, something overcame him that blinded him to this truth, and it is as it was reported.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Therefore - my brother - our Lord - Mighty and Majestic - is Gentle and Merciful, meaning He always accepts the excuses of His servants, so we, from the perspective of the unseen, it is not a very big issue regarding these disbelievers, but for us it is an issue so that we do not sit declaring people disbelievers, as you know:
Whoever declares a Muslim to be a disbeliever has committed disbelief.
من كفَّر مسلمًا فقد كفرAnother questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: ... on what? It is narrowing on us, and it is narrowing, and this is a gain, not a loss in the narrowing; meaning it is better for a person to err in not declaring someone a disbeliever than to... .
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: La ilaha illa Allah, make it... for this religion, when it was made jurisprudence for this religion, meaning was it intended for the person to say it while knowing its meaning, or?
The Shaykh: Or do you intend that he knows its meaning, believes in its meaning, and responds to the implications of its meaning.
I delivered a speech in the mosque today, I do not know what the name of this mosque is?
Another questioner: The mosque of 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
The Shaykh: 'Umar ibn al-Khattab.
So I explained His saying - the Exalted - :
Say, "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone."
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْ يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌ فَمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاءَ رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًا"Muhammad is a human, not like humans *** ... ... ... "
Yes?
The questioner: But he is a ruby.
The Shaykh: "But he is a ruby, and people are like stones"
Another questioner: And they say... .
The Shaykh: I said that Muhammad, from his humanity, is that he is like... women... it is not so, and he was injured and struck and... and so on, and he married and performed ghusl from janabah, and so on these known facts, that to prove the truth of His saying - the Exalted - :
Say, "I am only a man like you
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْSo we must understand the Qur'anic text without extremism, neither excess nor negligence;
Say, "I am only a man like you
قُلْ إِنَّمَا أَنَا بَشَرٌ مِثْلُكُمْIt is revealed to me
يُوحَى إِلَيَّIt is revealed to me that your God is but one God
يُوحَى إِلَيَّ أَنَّمَا إِلَهُكُمْ إِلَهٌ وَاحِدٌAnd we explained - also - and gave in the context of the speech the oneness of worship and the oneness of attributes verses by "al-Busiri":
"For from Your generosity is the world and its harm *** And from Your knowledge is the knowledge of the Tablet and the Pen"
"From Your knowledge"!! We obligated the verses and hadiths that explicitly state that... is with Allah, and among that is the saying of the Messenger to the slave girl who said: "And among us is a Prophet who knows what is in tomorrow." He said:
No one knows the unseen except Allah. Leave that alone, and say what you used to say
لا يعلم الغيب إلا الله ، دَعِي هذا ، وقولي ما كنت تقولينSo whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone."
فَمَنْ كَانَ يَرْجُو لِقَاءَ رَبِّهِ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًا صَالِحًا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِ أَحَدًاTherefore, it is not sufficient to say La ilaha illa Allah without understanding; understanding is necessary, but understanding is not sufficient without faith and belief, then one should not stand in the way of this tawhid with what contradicts and opposes it, like shirk and idolatry... .
Yes?
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