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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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The Shaykh : Does this verse include the type I am asking you about?

The questioner : The one who does not know and disbelieves in the heart?

The Shaykh : Yes, he does not know that this is disbelief, and he does not realize that it is disbelief.

Another questioner : ... .

The questioner : Does it include him?

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner : How?
Since Allah (Mighty and Majestic) does not hold accountable one to whom no messenger was sent, it is even more so that He does not punish one who does not know about it.

The Shaykh : So he is not punished?

The questioner : Yes; because it is not in our case...

The Shaykh : ...So can we now imagine a person who disbelieves in his heart—this is more serious than the previous discussion—who disbelieves in his heart and yet is not gathered with the group of disbelievers; is that right or not?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : I mean, this type exists.

The questioner: Of course.

The Shaykh : So, Professor, we do not take matters in such a general way, yes...
Now let me complete the research, or is there no more research?

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : If there is a creedal disbelief for which a person is not held accountable for some reason or for some matter.

The questioner : It is necessary.

The Shaykh : What I am saying is, for some reason, it is even more so that one who is a believer in his heart and whose action is an action of disbelief, such as siding with the disbelievers, is not declared a disbeliever, as came in this verse:
And whoever is an ally to them among you - then indeed, he is [one] of them وَمَنْ يَتَوَلَّهُمْ مِنْكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ
[Al-Ma'idah 5:51]
, and as came in the previous hadith:
He who copies any people is one of them. مَن تشبَّه بقومٍ فهو منهم
Sunan Abi Dawud 4031Hasan Sahih (Al-Albani)
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What I intended with my question to you was the previous question, and we agreed—also—by the grace of Allah that this verse and the hadith and the hadiths
So he is not one of us فليس منَّا
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then he is one of them فهو منهم
, and so on, must be interpreted within the limits of the reality of the individuals who dwell in this house. So, whoever sides with the disbelievers in his heart and his outward action, the verse is for us according to its apparent meaning, so he is among them, meaning he will abide in it forever. And whoever sides with them in action, like "Hatib," but not in belief, and his heart is at rest with faith, then he is not among them; that is, it is not creedal disbelief, but rather practical disbelief like practical hypocrisy. So, the least that can be said about this verse, in response to the author and those... regarding the author, this verse is not a text that he is among them in his heart, unless in reality he is in his heart...
...another occasion, if Allah wills, but let us remember to what point we reached... if Allah wills.
Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You. I bear witness that there is no god but You. I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
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