Reconciling Two Hadiths of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him): “He forbade a man to perform ghusl in the leftover water of a woman,” and “Water does not cause major ritual impurity”
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The questioner : Reconciling two hadiths of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him): he forbade a man to perform ghusl in the leftover water of a woman, and Sunan Ibn Majah 520Da'if (Darussalam)? It is possible... he is the only one who did not accept, I mean.
The Shaykh : May Allah will that he is the only one.
The reconciliation has two aspects: One is to interpret the prohibition as being for discouragement (tanzihi). The other—as the Hanbalis say—is if he is alone with the water, but if she is with him, this is the case.
The questioner : Okay; first, the reconciliation of the other... it contradicts the text of the hadith that Maimunah performed ghusl while she was alone.
The Shaykh : The first reconciliation is not the other one; this is the first reconciliation.
The questioner : The other reconciliation is for discouragement...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : As long as you are not convinced because of the word "forbade," I personally know the combining of...
The Shaykh : ...it is because there is a prohibition from... because if there were something forbidden, it would not...
The questioner : I mean, we cannot say that the water is not sufficient... and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said it is sufficient.
The Shaykh : ...this is another problem, or...
...
The questioner : He forbade performing ghusl in the leftover water, meaning I fear that if we say that if a person wants... that he should avoid the water because it may affect the ghusl, then a person can perform ghusl with it, but the best is to leave it for other matters, I mean, it may be considered disgusting... I mean, I say that some of the Companions or some people, or a custom of the pre-Islamic age of ignorance, or even now we have bathrooms, that if one person performs ghusl while in a state of major ritual impurity, they do not approach the water until they use up all the water; therefore, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said:Sunan Abi Dawud 68Sahih (Al-Albani)
Another questioner : Yes, as a discouragement.
The questioner : I mean, is it acceptable?
The Shaykh : Yes, what does he say...?
The questioner : The water is not used...
The Shaykh : It is used.
The questioner : No, the water is not used...
The questioner : No, he means... the topic he is referring to is the used water.
The Shaykh : So what is its ruling now, you explained it...?
The questioner : Discouragement.
Another questioner : Okay; is it possible to tie it to the belief of the person; I mean, if he wants to believe that the water causes major ritual impurity, he must...
The Shaykh : No, no, the Shari'ah does not help a person to bring ideas from his imagination.
The questioner : I mean, the best thing to say is: for discouragement, a woman sometimes...
The Shaykh : I clarified it...
Another questioner : ...in the car.
The Shaykh : Water in the car is an easy matter.
The questioner : A woman sometimes...
The Shaykh : This is in front of you here, it appears... after the afternoon prayer.
It was narrated that Jabir bin 'Abdullah said: "We came to a pond in which there was the carcass of a donkey, so we refrained from using the water until the Messenger of Allah came to us and said: 'Water is not made impure by anything.' Then we drank from it and gave it to our animals to drink, and we carried some with us."
إن الماء لا ينجسThe Shaykh : May Allah will that he is the only one.
The reconciliation has two aspects: One is to interpret the prohibition as being for discouragement (tanzihi). The other—as the Hanbalis say—is if he is alone with the water, but if she is with him, this is the case.
The questioner : Okay; first, the reconciliation of the other... it contradicts the text of the hadith that Maimunah performed ghusl while she was alone.
The Shaykh : The first reconciliation is not the other one; this is the first reconciliation.
The questioner : The other reconciliation is for discouragement...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : As long as you are not convinced because of the word "forbade," I personally know the combining of...
The Shaykh : ...it is because there is a prohibition from... because if there were something forbidden, it would not...
The questioner : I mean, we cannot say that the water is not sufficient... and the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said it is sufficient.
The Shaykh : ...this is another problem, or...
...
The questioner : He forbade performing ghusl in the leftover water, meaning I fear that if we say that if a person wants... that he should avoid the water because it may affect the ghusl, then a person can perform ghusl with it, but the best is to leave it for other matters, I mean, it may be considered disgusting... I mean, I say that some of the Companions or some people, or a custom of the pre-Islamic age of ignorance, or even now we have bathrooms, that if one person performs ghusl while in a state of major ritual impurity, they do not approach the water until they use up all the water; therefore, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
Water not defiled.
إنَّ الماء لا يُجنبAnother questioner : Yes, as a discouragement.
The questioner : I mean, is it acceptable?
The Shaykh : Yes, what does he say...?
The questioner : The water is not used...
The Shaykh : It is used.
The questioner : No, the water is not used...
The questioner : No, he means... the topic he is referring to is the used water.
The Shaykh : So what is its ruling now, you explained it...?
The questioner : Discouragement.
Another questioner : Okay; is it possible to tie it to the belief of the person; I mean, if he wants to believe that the water causes major ritual impurity, he must...
The Shaykh : No, no, the Shari'ah does not help a person to bring ideas from his imagination.
The questioner : I mean, the best thing to say is: for discouragement, a woman sometimes...
The Shaykh : I clarified it...
Another questioner : ...in the car.
The Shaykh : Water in the car is an easy matter.
The questioner : A woman sometimes...
The Shaykh : This is in front of you here, it appears... after the afternoon prayer.
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