Does one who masturbates with his hand until he releases his fluid and places it in a container for examination break his fast in Ramadan?
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The questioner : We have a second question here. In the month of Ramadan, we are going to collect seminal fluid from people, or from those who provide it for us. What is the ruling in Islam regarding this during the day, when they are naturally fasting? Does the man break his fast, I mean?
Another questioner : The one from whom the fluid is taken.
The Shaykh : The man, while he is fasting?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, he will have to fiddle with himself.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So that he can put the fluid in a special container and the doctor receives it. Yes, of course. Your question, as I understand it, concerns whether he breaks his fast or not.
The questioner : Exactly.
The Shaykh : The answer is that this does not break the fast, but it should be accompanied, at least, by this question, or preceded by it: Is this action permissible?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Huh?
The questioner : I do not know.
The Shaykh : I know you don't know, but I was saying that the first question should be this one.
The questioner : Yes, correct.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The answer is that the issue is related to what is called today the secret habit, which is masturbation. The secret habit is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine. So we need to imagine now that this thing, which is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine, namely masturbation, that I wanted to clarify whether there is a dire necessity or not, but I will retract. I will tell you: before I proceed with the topic, I said earlier that masturbation is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine. Do you have knowledge of this?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Do you have knowledge?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Huh?
Another questioner : Masturbation.
The Shaykh : That masturbation is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine.
The questioner : Mamdouh; is it true... forbidden, but why?
Another questioner : Medically, do you have knowledge that it is forbidden?
The questioner : Medically, no...
The Shaykh: You have no knowledge?
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Strange.
The questioner : As evidenced by the fact that they...
The Shaykh : No, that will be discussed in what I started with, that there may be a dire necessity, and dire necessities permit the prohibited, at least the necessity as some people perceive it, and this is what we wanted to talk about in that hour, but I reconsidered the matter and said, before I delve into it, let us see what our brother has regarding the issue. So, at least from the medical side, you do not have knowledge that the secret habit is medically forbidden; that is: medically harmful; you do not have knowledge of this?
The questioner : No, we naturally have knowledge that it is medically harmful.
The Shaykh : So then? How did you say earlier...?
The questioner : I mean... we take a sample from him.
The Shaykh : No, that is not the topic I am researching. I am researching the basic principle: What is the ruling on masturbation? We say: Masturbation is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine. By the Shari'ah because we have evidence, some of which we may mention. By medicine because it has been proven by experience that masturbation harms its practitioners severely, to the point that some of them sometimes become unfit for marriage. Do you know this?
The questioner : Naturally, medicine, ah.
The Shaykh : Oh?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am speaking from the medical side about the one who practices the secret habit.
The questioner : He is harmed.
The Shaykh : He is harmed, and the harm reaches some of them sometimes to the point that they are not fit for marriage. So we do not need to research this with you from the medical side, because you are convinced of it.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : From this side. From the Shari'ah side, our Lord says:[Al-Mu'minun 23:5-7]; that is: as Imam al-Shafi'i (may Allah have mercy on him) said: "Whoever seeks a means to satisfy his desire other than the means of marriage and concubinage namely, the transgressors." Marriage is known. Do you know concubinage?
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Concubinage - if Allah wills - we see it in our days when there is jihad, O Abu Faris.
Another questioner : O Allah, amen.
The Shaykh : If Allah wills [The Shaykh laughs!].
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: [ The Shaykh laughs! ] .
When there is an Islamic war between the Muslims and the disbelievers, the captives who fall into the hands of the Muslims, men and women, there is a detailed ruling here that we do not have time for now. They become captives with the Muslims, and the captives become slaves. The army commander distributes them among the army. This one gets a man to work as a servant without a wage, a slave servant. This one gets a woman to enjoy without a contract, without anything. But if she is not a virgin, what is required? He must wait to ensure she is not pregnant. And if she is a virgin, welcome, that is better and more beautiful [The Shaykh laughs!].
What is the name of this? Concubinage. So whoever seeks to satisfy desire other than by marriage and concubinage, those are the transgressors, meaning the wrongdoers. If we know this fact that masturbation is forbidden because it harms health, we return now and say: This fasting Muslim who wants to go to the doctor and fiddle with himself and masturbate; this is not permissible, neither by the Shari'ah nor by medicine. But it may be said here: there is a dire necessity. We ask now: Why does this man or another fiddle with himself and have his fluid taken?
The questioner : Sometimes... we examine the motility of the sperm, medical things we examine, we give him a normal report, on this basis...
The Shaykh : You did not give me an answer. I did not ask you what you do. I say: Why is this fluid taken from him?
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner : I mean, he has a disease?
The questioner : Yes, naturally, for him to have a disease.
Another questioner : What is it?
The Shaykh : Say, for example, sterile?
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; say, for example, sterile, so we need to see if the sterility is from him or from his wife?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Okay; we saw the man's fluid, it did not come out sterile; will it be the woman's turn?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; how do we need to examine the woman?
The questioner : Naturally, a normal examination.
The Shaykh : An examination, I mean?
The questioner : An examination.
The Shaykh : So we will fall into the forbidden?
The questioner : Into the forbidden.
The Shaykh : Good; we return and say, in one of the scenarios, the man's fluid was examined and it turned out he is the one who is sterile, so he may accept treatment or not accept treatment, according to the doctor's report. The question now: A couple married and years have passed, as Allah wills, and they were not given a child; is there a dire necessity that permits him to masturbate? This is the question. Naturally, the answer is not from you, but from me. I will say: This is not a dire necessity. If it were possible to say to this man who is suspected of being sterile, take two or three pills of a certain type, we take them; because there is no exposure to committing a violation of the Shari'ah. But no, by Allah, the issue requires that he do such and such, and then that may not suffice, and the matter moves to examining the wife, and this is what happens today, this is an impermissible action. This is my answer about what you asked and what you did not ask; correct?
Another questioner : Clear?
Another questioner : Okay, our Shaykh, if we said - for example - we ask the brother, if this semen he collected at home?
The Shaykh : What did you mean?
Another questioner : At home; he took the tube to the house and had intercourse with his wife, instead of ejaculating in the vagina, he ejaculated in this tube and brought it to them for examination.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner : Is there a conflict medically for them, and a conflict by the Shari'ah?
The Shaykh : No, but I do not think this will succeed.
The questioner : Why? It will succeed, our Shaykh...
The Shaykh : I think they need it fresh.
Another questioner : ... .
...
The Shaykh : Give them news, by Allah, let them prepare, O Abu...
Another questioner : The one from whom the fluid is taken.
The Shaykh : The man, while he is fasting?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah, he will have to fiddle with himself.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So that he can put the fluid in a special container and the doctor receives it. Yes, of course. Your question, as I understand it, concerns whether he breaks his fast or not.
The questioner : Exactly.
The Shaykh : The answer is that this does not break the fast, but it should be accompanied, at least, by this question, or preceded by it: Is this action permissible?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Huh?
The questioner : I do not know.
The Shaykh : I know you don't know, but I was saying that the first question should be this one.
The questioner : Yes, correct.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The answer is that the issue is related to what is called today the secret habit, which is masturbation. The secret habit is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine. So we need to imagine now that this thing, which is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine, namely masturbation, that I wanted to clarify whether there is a dire necessity or not, but I will retract. I will tell you: before I proceed with the topic, I said earlier that masturbation is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine. Do you have knowledge of this?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Do you have knowledge?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Huh?
Another questioner : Masturbation.
The Shaykh : That masturbation is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine.
The questioner : Mamdouh; is it true... forbidden, but why?
Another questioner : Medically, do you have knowledge that it is forbidden?
The questioner : Medically, no...
The Shaykh: You have no knowledge?
The questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Strange.
The questioner : As evidenced by the fact that they...
The Shaykh : No, that will be discussed in what I started with, that there may be a dire necessity, and dire necessities permit the prohibited, at least the necessity as some people perceive it, and this is what we wanted to talk about in that hour, but I reconsidered the matter and said, before I delve into it, let us see what our brother has regarding the issue. So, at least from the medical side, you do not have knowledge that the secret habit is medically forbidden; that is: medically harmful; you do not have knowledge of this?
The questioner : No, we naturally have knowledge that it is medically harmful.
The Shaykh : So then? How did you say earlier...?
The questioner : I mean... we take a sample from him.
The Shaykh : No, that is not the topic I am researching. I am researching the basic principle: What is the ruling on masturbation? We say: Masturbation is forbidden by the Shari'ah and by medicine. By the Shari'ah because we have evidence, some of which we may mention. By medicine because it has been proven by experience that masturbation harms its practitioners severely, to the point that some of them sometimes become unfit for marriage. Do you know this?
The questioner : Naturally, medicine, ah.
The Shaykh : Oh?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : I am speaking from the medical side about the one who practices the secret habit.
The questioner : He is harmed.
The Shaykh : He is harmed, and the harm reaches some of them sometimes to the point that they are not fit for marriage. So we do not need to research this with you from the medical side, because you are convinced of it.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : From this side. From the Shari'ah side, our Lord says:
(5) And they who guard their private parts (6) Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed - (7) But whoever seeks beyond that, then those are the transgressors -
وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حَافِظُونَ * إِلَّا عَلَى أَزْوَاجِهِمْ أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُمْ فَإِنَّهُمْ غَيْرُ مَلُومِينَ * فَمَنِ ابْتَغَى وَرَاءَ ذَلِكَ فَأُولَئِكَ هُمُ الْعَادُونَThen it is they who are the transgressors.
فَأُولَئِكَ هُمُ الْعَادُونَThe questioner: No.
The Shaykh : Concubinage - if Allah wills - we see it in our days when there is jihad, O Abu Faris.
Another questioner : O Allah, amen.
The Shaykh : If Allah wills [The Shaykh laughs!].
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: [ The Shaykh laughs! ] .
When there is an Islamic war between the Muslims and the disbelievers, the captives who fall into the hands of the Muslims, men and women, there is a detailed ruling here that we do not have time for now. They become captives with the Muslims, and the captives become slaves. The army commander distributes them among the army. This one gets a man to work as a servant without a wage, a slave servant. This one gets a woman to enjoy without a contract, without anything. But if she is not a virgin, what is required? He must wait to ensure she is not pregnant. And if she is a virgin, welcome, that is better and more beautiful [The Shaykh laughs!].
What is the name of this? Concubinage. So whoever seeks to satisfy desire other than by marriage and concubinage, those are the transgressors, meaning the wrongdoers. If we know this fact that masturbation is forbidden because it harms health, we return now and say: This fasting Muslim who wants to go to the doctor and fiddle with himself and masturbate; this is not permissible, neither by the Shari'ah nor by medicine. But it may be said here: there is a dire necessity. We ask now: Why does this man or another fiddle with himself and have his fluid taken?
The questioner : Sometimes... we examine the motility of the sperm, medical things we examine, we give him a normal report, on this basis...
The Shaykh : You did not give me an answer. I did not ask you what you do. I say: Why is this fluid taken from him?
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner : I mean, he has a disease?
The questioner : Yes, naturally, for him to have a disease.
Another questioner : What is it?
The Shaykh : Say, for example, sterile?
The questioner : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; say, for example, sterile, so we need to see if the sterility is from him or from his wife?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Okay; we saw the man's fluid, it did not come out sterile; will it be the woman's turn?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay; how do we need to examine the woman?
The questioner : Naturally, a normal examination.
The Shaykh : An examination, I mean?
The questioner : An examination.
The Shaykh : So we will fall into the forbidden?
The questioner : Into the forbidden.
The Shaykh : Good; we return and say, in one of the scenarios, the man's fluid was examined and it turned out he is the one who is sterile, so he may accept treatment or not accept treatment, according to the doctor's report. The question now: A couple married and years have passed, as Allah wills, and they were not given a child; is there a dire necessity that permits him to masturbate? This is the question. Naturally, the answer is not from you, but from me. I will say: This is not a dire necessity. If it were possible to say to this man who is suspected of being sterile, take two or three pills of a certain type, we take them; because there is no exposure to committing a violation of the Shari'ah. But no, by Allah, the issue requires that he do such and such, and then that may not suffice, and the matter moves to examining the wife, and this is what happens today, this is an impermissible action. This is my answer about what you asked and what you did not ask; correct?
Another questioner : Clear?
Another questioner : Okay, our Shaykh, if we said - for example - we ask the brother, if this semen he collected at home?
The Shaykh : What did you mean?
Another questioner : At home; he took the tube to the house and had intercourse with his wife, instead of ejaculating in the vagina, he ejaculated in this tube and brought it to them for examination.
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner : Is there a conflict medically for them, and a conflict by the Shari'ah?
The Shaykh : No, but I do not think this will succeed.
The questioner : Why? It will succeed, our Shaykh...
The Shaykh : I think they need it fresh.
Another questioner : ... .
...
The Shaykh : Give them news, by Allah, let them prepare, O Abu...
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