What is your opinion regarding the statement mentioned by "Al-Hawi fi al-Fatawa" concerning tasbih with pebbles? And clarifying that the term al-sabaha is a later coinage.
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The questioner : O Shaykh, all the speech he mentioned in the book "Al-Hawi li al-Fatawa" regarding tasbih...
The Shaykh : "Al-Manha fi al-Sabaha" is entirely based on incorrect narrations, and the weakest of them is that it attributed to the Messenger (peace be upon him): "The best reminder is the sabaha," while the linguists say that applying the term sabaha to this tool... this is a linguistic innovation; meaning, the Arabs did not know before that when sabaha was said, it meant the prayer beads as we say today. They did not know this meaning. This is a later custom, most like, for example, today, an Arabic word, but its customary meaning is not known today, for example, the car. The car, its name in some European languages, perhaps the French "automobile," yes, the automobile in Arabic today is a car, but when they used to use the word car, none of them understood that it is the thing that moves on four wheels with gasoline or diesel or the like. Yes, this is a later custom. Likewise, the sabaha, the term sabaha, when the Arabs used it, they did not have in mind that the intended meaning was the prayer beads. But when the prayer beads spread in the century, in the late first century or the one after it, a name was derived for it, what? "Al-sabaha"; because it is used for tasbih with it, or the prayer beads. Linguistically, it is not our way in proving the innovated nature of the sabaha linguistically. Also, we provided evidence when we responded to the Shaykh "Abdullah al-Habashi" that this sabaha did not exist, by the proof: open the dictionaries that explain to us the Arabic terms, you will not find the sabaha; meaning: this device with which Allah is glorified. No, this is a meaning that occurred later.
The questioner : In "Al-Silsilah al-Da'ifa," in the speech...
The Shaykh : Yes, but I have a treatise in the response to "al-Habashi." "Al-Silsilah al-Da'ifa" is something, meaning, a summary compared to what is in the treatise in the response to "al-Habashi."
The Shaykh : "Al-Manha fi al-Sabaha" is entirely based on incorrect narrations, and the weakest of them is that it attributed to the Messenger (peace be upon him): "The best reminder is the sabaha," while the linguists say that applying the term sabaha to this tool... this is a linguistic innovation; meaning, the Arabs did not know before that when sabaha was said, it meant the prayer beads as we say today. They did not know this meaning. This is a later custom, most like, for example, today, an Arabic word, but its customary meaning is not known today, for example, the car. The car, its name in some European languages, perhaps the French "automobile," yes, the automobile in Arabic today is a car, but when they used to use the word car, none of them understood that it is the thing that moves on four wheels with gasoline or diesel or the like. Yes, this is a later custom. Likewise, the sabaha, the term sabaha, when the Arabs used it, they did not have in mind that the intended meaning was the prayer beads. But when the prayer beads spread in the century, in the late first century or the one after it, a name was derived for it, what? "Al-sabaha"; because it is used for tasbih with it, or the prayer beads. Linguistically, it is not our way in proving the innovated nature of the sabaha linguistically. Also, we provided evidence when we responded to the Shaykh "Abdullah al-Habashi" that this sabaha did not exist, by the proof: open the dictionaries that explain to us the Arabic terms, you will not find the sabaha; meaning: this device with which Allah is glorified. No, this is a meaning that occurred later.
The questioner : In "Al-Silsilah al-Da'ifa," in the speech...
The Shaykh : Yes, but I have a treatise in the response to "al-Habashi." "Al-Silsilah al-Da'ifa" is something, meaning, a summary compared to what is in the treatise in the response to "al-Habashi."
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