The Shaykh’s clarification of some of the trials and issues he faced due to the fierce attack on him regarding the fatwa on emigration, along with what occurred between him and Zuheir al-Shawish
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The Shaykh: [Yusuf 12:110] The chosen, noble messengers reach a point close to despair, but soon our Lord - Mighty and Majestic - supports them with aid from Him. Therefore, we should be among the patient ones [Al-Baqarah 2:156-157] I mean, my current situation is among the most amazing, the most difficult, and the calmest of matters; it is full of strange contradictions.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you be peace, yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Oh Allah, despite that, my heart is stronger than iron, trusting in Allah - Mighty and Majestic - the One who said:[Ghafir 40:51], [Al-Baqarah 2:194], [Al-Hajj 22:38] This story has come to us, the issue of the child has come to us, .
The questioner: Glory be to Allah!
The Shaykh: The third of the three, as it is said, as it is said, a big man came and said he wants to reconcile between me and Zuheir. Now, we have a very close session, what does the mind of this old man want to expand?
The questioner: May Allah have mercy on him.
The Shaykh: Regarding these matters, if it were not for .
The questioner: the firmness of Allah - Glorified and Exalted is He - .
Another questioner: May Allah make you firm, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The questioner: Amen, O Lord.
Another questioner: Is this a summary, Shaykh of the session?
The Shaykh: Yes, of course ... .
The questioner: It is natural for it to be a summary.
Another questioner: Is there a recording? Is there no recording in it?
The Shaykh: Because it is of this kind, yes.
The questioner: Is there no recording in it?
The Shaykh: I do not think Zuheir is like a snake that bites and hides.
The questioner: Allah is the Greatest!
The Shaykh: He left no means, and he is a man who films - because I am one of the people who know him best - sitting like this in his office, saying "So-and-so, so-and-so, do this, ask for so-and-so, ask for the beik, the prince, the intelligence, such and such," and he gives orders. It appears he is connected with some of the heads here, hey, settle it, how many, six, approximately, of the intelligence?
The questioner: Of the intelligence? Yes, approximately.
The Shaykh: So they sent the intelligence after me, there is nothing except that hey, the storm that is happening in the country between you and Zuheir al-Shawish, we want you to reconcile. We told them we will reconcile from your side ... They hinted to me that a high position intervened in the matter, therefore we need a solution to the problem. They wrote a report as is their custom and signed it. Do you know this thing? They want Zuheir’s signature, they want my signature. I told him: I do not sign. He who signs must pledge that he will lift his oppression from us, and his tongue, and his words, and his publications, and so on, and then the problem is over. In summary, the intelligence reached the case, to Shaykh Ibn Baz, years ago it reached him, to so-and-so, to so-and-so, brother, to the director of the Education Office, al-Khalili. If you hear of those who were tasked with correcting the Sunan and weakening the hadiths, do you remember?
The questioner : By Allah, I do not remember.
The Shaykh: In the four authentic Sunan, you must have looked at them.
The questioner: No, by Allah, I have not looked at them.
The Shaykh: The important thing is that he sent me a written note asking us to end the material dispute between you and Zuheir, and that you have cooperated with each other in spreading the Sunnah and spreading knowledge. I wrote to him: O Shaykh, the issue is not a material issue, the issue is moral or immoral, and so on. This was one of the rare things of men, this one stripped off the emotions and wrote a letter to Zuheir saying that I contacted Shaykh Al-Albani, and Al-Albani told me that the issue is not a material issue but a moral issue, meaning it is not as you are saying that the issue is material. And the remnants of them who come to me, even a group from Tripoli came to me a few months ago, he who planted them without a doubt, saying if you do not submit to the ruling of the meeting with us and studying the issue, we will expose you!!
The questioner : Strange.
The Shaykh: I did not respond to them with a shout, "And if every dog barks, I would stuff a stone in its mouth." In summary, now I sent a very big personality who was once the head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Kuwait, and he met with Abu Malik and opened the topic. Abu Malik is aware of what Zuheir did, and that Abu Malik intervened and proposed, and Zuheir agreed, then he was abandoned, and so on. So he told him at the end, I advise you to lift your hand from the matter, because Zuheir is a slippery one, he will escape. He told him there is no objection, but if there is no benefit in solving the existing problem between them, I want to visit the Shaykh. He told him: Okay, and I will speak with the Shaykh, and we agreed, I have no objection to any meeting as you know, so this meeting will be soon. I mean from here and from here and from here. Despite that, praise be to Allah, I am completely reassured that the outcome is for the righteous, and that there is no aggression except against the wrongdoers.
The questioner : May Allah assist you.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Helper.
The questioner: May Allah give you patience, okay, shall we pray, O our Shaykh?
[They continued] until, when the messengers despaired and were certain that they had been denied, there came to them Our victory
حَتَّى إِذَا اسْتَيْأَسَ الرُّسُلُ وَظَنُّوا أَنَّهُمْ قَدْ كُذِبُوا جَاءَهُمْ نَصْرُنَا(156) Who, when disaster strikes them, say, "Indeed we belong to Allah, and indeed to Him we will return." (157) Those are the ones upon whom are blessings from their Lord and mercy. And it is those who are the [rightly] guided.
الَّذِينَ إِذَا أَصَابَتْهُمْ مُصِيبَةٌ قَالُوا إِنَّا لِلَّهِ وَإِنَّا إِلَيْهِ رَاجِعُونَ * أُولَئِكَ عَلَيْهِمْ صَلَوَاتٌ مِنْ رَبِّهِمْ وَرَحْمَةٌ وَأُولَئِكَ هُمُ الْمُهْتَدُونَThe questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you be peace, yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Oh Allah, despite that, my heart is stronger than iron, trusting in Allah - Mighty and Majestic - the One who said:
Indeed, We will support Our messengers and those who believe during the life of this world
إِنَّا لَنَنْصُرُ رُسُلَنَا وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا فِي الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَاthat Allah is with those who fear Him.
أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَIndeed, Allah defends those who have believed
إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُدَافِعُ عَنِ الَّذِينَ آمَنُواThe questioner: Glory be to Allah!
The Shaykh: The third of the three, as it is said, as it is said, a big man came and said he wants to reconcile between me and Zuheir. Now, we have a very close session, what does the mind of this old man want to expand?
The questioner: May Allah have mercy on him.
The Shaykh: Regarding these matters, if it were not for .
The questioner: the firmness of Allah - Glorified and Exalted is He - .
Another questioner: May Allah make you firm, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh: Allah is the Greatest!
The questioner: Amen, O Lord.
Another questioner: Is this a summary, Shaykh of the session?
The Shaykh: Yes, of course ... .
The questioner: It is natural for it to be a summary.
Another questioner: Is there a recording? Is there no recording in it?
The Shaykh: Because it is of this kind, yes.
The questioner: Is there no recording in it?
The Shaykh: I do not think Zuheir is like a snake that bites and hides.
The questioner: Allah is the Greatest!
The Shaykh: He left no means, and he is a man who films - because I am one of the people who know him best - sitting like this in his office, saying "So-and-so, so-and-so, do this, ask for so-and-so, ask for the beik, the prince, the intelligence, such and such," and he gives orders. It appears he is connected with some of the heads here, hey, settle it, how many, six, approximately, of the intelligence?
The questioner: Of the intelligence? Yes, approximately.
The Shaykh: So they sent the intelligence after me, there is nothing except that hey, the storm that is happening in the country between you and Zuheir al-Shawish, we want you to reconcile. We told them we will reconcile from your side ... They hinted to me that a high position intervened in the matter, therefore we need a solution to the problem. They wrote a report as is their custom and signed it. Do you know this thing? They want Zuheir’s signature, they want my signature. I told him: I do not sign. He who signs must pledge that he will lift his oppression from us, and his tongue, and his words, and his publications, and so on, and then the problem is over. In summary, the intelligence reached the case, to Shaykh Ibn Baz, years ago it reached him, to so-and-so, to so-and-so, brother, to the director of the Education Office, al-Khalili. If you hear of those who were tasked with correcting the Sunan and weakening the hadiths, do you remember?
The questioner : By Allah, I do not remember.
The Shaykh: In the four authentic Sunan, you must have looked at them.
The questioner: No, by Allah, I have not looked at them.
The Shaykh: The important thing is that he sent me a written note asking us to end the material dispute between you and Zuheir, and that you have cooperated with each other in spreading the Sunnah and spreading knowledge. I wrote to him: O Shaykh, the issue is not a material issue, the issue is moral or immoral, and so on. This was one of the rare things of men, this one stripped off the emotions and wrote a letter to Zuheir saying that I contacted Shaykh Al-Albani, and Al-Albani told me that the issue is not a material issue but a moral issue, meaning it is not as you are saying that the issue is material. And the remnants of them who come to me, even a group from Tripoli came to me a few months ago, he who planted them without a doubt, saying if you do not submit to the ruling of the meeting with us and studying the issue, we will expose you!!
The questioner : Strange.
The Shaykh: I did not respond to them with a shout, "And if every dog barks, I would stuff a stone in its mouth." In summary, now I sent a very big personality who was once the head of the Muslim Brotherhood in Kuwait, and he met with Abu Malik and opened the topic. Abu Malik is aware of what Zuheir did, and that Abu Malik intervened and proposed, and Zuheir agreed, then he was abandoned, and so on. So he told him at the end, I advise you to lift your hand from the matter, because Zuheir is a slippery one, he will escape. He told him there is no objection, but if there is no benefit in solving the existing problem between them, I want to visit the Shaykh. He told him: Okay, and I will speak with the Shaykh, and we agreed, I have no objection to any meeting as you know, so this meeting will be soon. I mean from here and from here and from here. Despite that, praise be to Allah, I am completely reassured that the outcome is for the righteous, and that there is no aggression except against the wrongdoers.
The questioner : May Allah assist you.
The Shaykh : Allah is the Helper.
The questioner: May Allah give you patience, okay, shall we pray, O our Shaykh?
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