The agreement between the Shaykh and the student that there are definitive indicators for declaring a disbeliever (takfir) one who does not judge by what Allah has revealed.
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The Shaykh : You agree with me that there are definitive indicators of creedal disbelief, correct?
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Let us suppose, for the sake of argument, that we do not discuss it, because the issues number in the hundreds. Let us suppose that this slaughterer’s action indicates creedal disbelief. Fine.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But there is a second category, and you agree with me on this too: there are practical indicators that do not indicate creedal disbelief. It is certainly disbelief, practical disbelief, but as an outward indication, it does not indicate that its owner is a disbeliever in terms of creed, correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : All right, be patient with me and explain this and that, and other matters that may fall under the first category and may fall under the other category, correct?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Correct.
The questioner : Correct... Oh, Shaykh.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Let us suppose, for the sake of argument, that we do not discuss it, because the issues number in the hundreds. Let us suppose that this slaughterer’s action indicates creedal disbelief. Fine.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But there is a second category, and you agree with me on this too: there are practical indicators that do not indicate creedal disbelief. It is certainly disbelief, practical disbelief, but as an outward indication, it does not indicate that its owner is a disbeliever in terms of creed, correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : All right, be patient with me and explain this and that, and other matters that may fall under the first category and may fall under the other category, correct?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Correct.
The questioner : Correct... Oh, Shaykh.
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