The Shaykh and the student reviewing what they agreed upon regarding the issue of ruling by other than what Allah has revealed.
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The Shaykh : So, what did we agree upon? Let’s see.
The questioner : We agreed that there are practical actions that indicate creedal disbelief that takes one out of the religion.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And there are practical matters that do not take one out of the religion, and between these two...
The Shaykh : No, no, I do not say they do not take one out of the religion.
The student : After detailed analysis.
The questioner : After detailed analysis.
The student : Yes, and the practical ones also require...
The Shaykh : No, no, they do not indicate, they do not indicate with a definitive indication, and the creedal disbelief may be...
The student : Creedal disbelief after detailed analysis.
The Shaykh : Yes, okay, and between this and that, what is there?
The questioner : Between this and that are indicators.
The Shaykh : Indicators of what?
The questioner : Signs.
The Shaykh : Confusing.
The questioner : Do they attach to this or to that?
The Shaykh : They are confusing; they may attach to the first category or to the other category. So if we disagree on a detail among these details, it is harmful.
The questioner : According to the evidence, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My brother, according to the evidence, scholars differ with one another, do they not? Have they differed? Say, yes.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, and does not each one have his own viewpoint and his own evidence? Say, yes.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But despite that, they differed. So your saying "according to the evidence" is your viewpoint, and the viewpoint of the one who opposes you is also according to his evidence. The aim is agreement on the fundamentals. Now, the four Imams who differed agreed on the fundamentals and differed on the branches. So we follow the one who has the evidence, but we do not deny their difference, because each one, as He the Exalted said...[Al-Baqarah 2:148] So, as they say in our region in Syria, you are laughing in your sneeze that you came from Kuwait to here and you learned this detail and that there is no disagreement between us in it. But certainly, we may differ on some details. Do you limit these details to a hundred or to a thousand? Tell me.
The questioner : The details in the actions of disbelief.
The Shaykh : Yes, the actions indicating disbelief in general, and then the classification we mentioned: creedal disbelief, practical disbelief, and between them are ambiguous matters. These are five issues, ten issues, a hundred issues, or more than that.
The questioner: Many.
The Shaykh : Many, may Allah bless you. So you are still hoping for the impossible, that you will agree with a man with whom you agreed on the principle that he will agree with you on the derivation in all these issues. This is a mistake.
The questioner : Not all the issues.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : We mentioned slaughtering for other than Allah. Does it necessitate verbal declaration, or is it just the action and establishing the proof?
The Shaykh : My brother, I am telling you that this indicates with a definitive indication, as we said, after establishing the proof. But are there not other issues, numbering in the hundreds?
The questioner : ... We are now ... .
The Shaykh : There is nothing on it, my brother. What is happening in it may lead to agreement and may lead to disagreement. As long as we are agreed on the fundamentals, do not carry the ladder on its side, as they say, and raise it as a controversial issue. This controversy is not fundamental, but rather branch-related. And peace be upon you... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : ... by mistake.
The Shaykh : How by mistake? This is a habit. When a person makes something a habit, he does not make a mistake in it.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah... So what are you doing? You are a young man, in the prime of your youth and strength, and so on. You must be careful.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... the left, why not ... the right ... considering he does it as a habit, but we passed our colleges ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Where would it have been.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... meaning ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, and now you are hitting with the hammer.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Oh my God, here.
The questioner : We agreed that there are practical actions that indicate creedal disbelief that takes one out of the religion.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And there are practical matters that do not take one out of the religion, and between these two...
The Shaykh : No, no, I do not say they do not take one out of the religion.
The student : After detailed analysis.
The questioner : After detailed analysis.
The student : Yes, and the practical ones also require...
The Shaykh : No, no, they do not indicate, they do not indicate with a definitive indication, and the creedal disbelief may be...
The student : Creedal disbelief after detailed analysis.
The Shaykh : Yes, okay, and between this and that, what is there?
The questioner : Between this and that are indicators.
The Shaykh : Indicators of what?
The questioner : Signs.
The Shaykh : Confusing.
The questioner : Do they attach to this or to that?
The Shaykh : They are confusing; they may attach to the first category or to the other category. So if we disagree on a detail among these details, it is harmful.
The questioner : According to the evidence, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My brother, according to the evidence, scholars differ with one another, do they not? Have they differed? Say, yes.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, and does not each one have his own viewpoint and his own evidence? Say, yes.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : But despite that, they differed. So your saying "according to the evidence" is your viewpoint, and the viewpoint of the one who opposes you is also according to his evidence. The aim is agreement on the fundamentals. Now, the four Imams who differed agreed on the fundamentals and differed on the branches. So we follow the one who has the evidence, but we do not deny their difference, because each one, as He the Exalted said...
For each [religious following] is a direction toward which it faces. So race to [all that is] good.
وَلِكُلٍّ وِجْهَةٌ هُوَ مُوَلِّيهَا فَاسْتَبِقُوا الْخَيْرَاتِThe questioner : The details in the actions of disbelief.
The Shaykh : Yes, the actions indicating disbelief in general, and then the classification we mentioned: creedal disbelief, practical disbelief, and between them are ambiguous matters. These are five issues, ten issues, a hundred issues, or more than that.
The questioner: Many.
The Shaykh : Many, may Allah bless you. So you are still hoping for the impossible, that you will agree with a man with whom you agreed on the principle that he will agree with you on the derivation in all these issues. This is a mistake.
The questioner : Not all the issues.
The Shaykh : Yes, yes.
The questioner : We mentioned slaughtering for other than Allah. Does it necessitate verbal declaration, or is it just the action and establishing the proof?
The Shaykh : My brother, I am telling you that this indicates with a definitive indication, as we said, after establishing the proof. But are there not other issues, numbering in the hundreds?
The questioner : ... We are now ... .
The Shaykh : There is nothing on it, my brother. What is happening in it may lead to agreement and may lead to disagreement. As long as we are agreed on the fundamentals, do not carry the ladder on its side, as they say, and raise it as a controversial issue. This controversy is not fundamental, but rather branch-related. And peace be upon you... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : ... by mistake.
The Shaykh : How by mistake? This is a habit. When a person makes something a habit, he does not make a mistake in it.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Ah... So what are you doing? You are a young man, in the prime of your youth and strength, and so on. You must be careful.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... the left, why not ... the right ... considering he does it as a habit, but we passed our colleges ... .
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Where would it have been.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... meaning ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, and now you are hitting with the hammer.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Oh my God, here.
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