Do we declare kufr (disbelief) upon those who circumambulate graves and the like, from among those who manifest acts of kufr?
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The questioner : Shaykh, regarding the graves, I found here plastered graves, is that not so? There are graveyards here!
The Shaykh : You are pointing here, there are no graves here, the graves you passed by are over there!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Plastered graveyards, have the people of the neighborhood not finished, or rather, do they not know the ruling regarding that?
The Shaykh :[Al-A'raf 7:187] .
The questioner : I am asking: Did they know about this matter?
The Shaykh : I informed you and spared you the answer:[Al-A'raf 7:187].
The questioner : I mean, this is the first time I see plastering!!
The Shaykh : Yes, because you have not left your village to know what exists in other lands.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, it is just the graveyard, nothing with the graveyards!!
The Shaykh : He is not seeing anything, he is not seeing anything, now if you go to Egypt, go to the Mosque of al-Husayn and Sayyidah Zaynab and look at those circumambulating around the graveyards and graves!!
The questioner : Well, speaking of those who circumambulate, Shaykh, the question came: Do we apply the word kufr (disbelief) to them?
The Shaykh: No.
The questioner : I mean, they circumambulate for other than Allah!
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : And circumambulation is worship!
The Shaykh : And does every one who circumambulates around a grave, or in a broader and more comprehensive phrase, does every one who falls into kufr (disbelief) have kufr (disbelief) attributed to him?
The questioner : The Shaykh : The answer is: No.
The Shaykh : So you have spared us the burden of the answer.
The questioner : But this necessitates that we ask him?
The Shaykh : What do you mean "but"? This is a correction.
The questioner : Without a correction, is it obligatory for us to ask him about his belief regarding this act?
The Shaykh : And what is the fruit of the question, or the lack of the question?! What is the fruit of the question or the lack of the question?
The questioner : The fruit of the question: If we say we do not declare him a disbeliever until we establish the proof against him.
The Shaykh : And the lack of the question?
The questioner : And the lack of the question, the man remains with us in the apparent ruling in the rank of kufr (disbelief).
The Shaykh : In the rank of kufr (disbelief), this is a diplomatic phrase, what does it mean "in the rank of kufr (disbelief)", does it mean he is not a disbeliever?
The questioner: It means he is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Here, a disbeliever, I mean.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, you have broken what you agreed with me on just now.
The questioner : But we have the apparent ruling, we do not have the hidden ruling.
The Shaykh : Well, there are two contradictory appearances, a man prays to Allah, and prays to the grave, so which of the two appearances do you prioritize over the other?
The questioner : A man prays to Allah!!
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : And a man prays?
The Shaykh : It is the same person.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : He prays to the grave.
The questioner : To the grave.
The Shaykh : Which of the two appearances do you adopt regarding this person?
The questioner : He prays to the grave for the grave.
The Shaykh : Which of the two appearances do you prioritize over the other, and rule by it regarding the man?
The questioner : The second one.
The Shaykh: Why not the first one?
The questioner: His appearance is that he faces the grave.
The Shaykh : His appearance is that he prays to Allah, and fasts for Allah, and performs Hajj for Allah, and says: There is no god but Allah.
The questioner : But he has broken it!! Is this not a breaker of the covenant?!
The Shaykh : No, we agreed that it is not a breaker of the covenant with certainty, and therefore I said in some of what I said: You want to establish the proof against him, and therefore you ask him, did you forget this speech?
The questioner : No, I did not forget this speech.
The Shaykh : But you neglected it then?
The Shaykh : You are pointing here, there are no graves here, the graves you passed by are over there!
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Plastered graveyards, have the people of the neighborhood not finished, or rather, do they not know the ruling regarding that?
The Shaykh :
but most of the people do not know."
وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَThe questioner : I am asking: Did they know about this matter?
The Shaykh : I informed you and spared you the answer:
but most of the people do not know."
وَلَكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ النَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَThe questioner : I mean, this is the first time I see plastering!!
The Shaykh : Yes, because you have not left your village to know what exists in other lands.
The questioner : Our Shaykh, it is just the graveyard, nothing with the graveyards!!
The Shaykh : He is not seeing anything, he is not seeing anything, now if you go to Egypt, go to the Mosque of al-Husayn and Sayyidah Zaynab and look at those circumambulating around the graveyards and graves!!
The questioner : Well, speaking of those who circumambulate, Shaykh, the question came: Do we apply the word kufr (disbelief) to them?
The Shaykh: No.
The questioner : I mean, they circumambulate for other than Allah!
The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.
The questioner : And circumambulation is worship!
The Shaykh : And does every one who circumambulates around a grave, or in a broader and more comprehensive phrase, does every one who falls into kufr (disbelief) have kufr (disbelief) attributed to him?
The questioner : The Shaykh : The answer is: No.
The Shaykh : So you have spared us the burden of the answer.
The questioner : But this necessitates that we ask him?
The Shaykh : What do you mean "but"? This is a correction.
The questioner : Without a correction, is it obligatory for us to ask him about his belief regarding this act?
The Shaykh : And what is the fruit of the question, or the lack of the question?! What is the fruit of the question or the lack of the question?
The questioner : The fruit of the question: If we say we do not declare him a disbeliever until we establish the proof against him.
The Shaykh : And the lack of the question?
The questioner : And the lack of the question, the man remains with us in the apparent ruling in the rank of kufr (disbelief).
The Shaykh : In the rank of kufr (disbelief), this is a diplomatic phrase, what does it mean "in the rank of kufr (disbelief)", does it mean he is not a disbeliever?
The questioner: It means he is a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Here, a disbeliever, I mean.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, you have broken what you agreed with me on just now.
The questioner : But we have the apparent ruling, we do not have the hidden ruling.
The Shaykh : Well, there are two contradictory appearances, a man prays to Allah, and prays to the grave, so which of the two appearances do you prioritize over the other?
The questioner : A man prays to Allah!!
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : And a man prays?
The Shaykh : It is the same person.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : He prays to the grave.
The questioner : To the grave.
The Shaykh : Which of the two appearances do you adopt regarding this person?
The questioner : He prays to the grave for the grave.
The Shaykh : Which of the two appearances do you prioritize over the other, and rule by it regarding the man?
The questioner : The second one.
The Shaykh: Why not the first one?
The questioner: His appearance is that he faces the grave.
The Shaykh : His appearance is that he prays to Allah, and fasts for Allah, and performs Hajj for Allah, and says: There is no god but Allah.
The questioner : But he has broken it!! Is this not a breaker of the covenant?!
The Shaykh : No, we agreed that it is not a breaker of the covenant with certainty, and therefore I said in some of what I said: You want to establish the proof against him, and therefore you ask him, did you forget this speech?
The questioner : No, I did not forget this speech.
The Shaykh : But you neglected it then?
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