What is the ruling on searching for old treasures? Is not the practice of deception a denial of the jinn?

The questioner : ... imagination.

The Shaykh : What is it?

The questioner : ... searching for old treasures.

The Shaykh : ... the practice of deception.

The questioner : ... deception, here.

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner : ... In truth, my teacher, is not the practice of deception a denial of the jinn?

The Shaykh : No, it is not a denial of the jinn.

The questioner : ... or of the jinn's supernatural deeds.

The Shaykh : No, it does not deny the existence of the jinn. As He, the Exalted, said: "Among us are the unjust" , just like humans. So if we say there is deception among humans, have we denied anything?
The student: No.

The Shaykh : And likewise, we say that those who deal with the jinn are only dealing with deception. He says that even among the Muslims, if one is patient, the answer will come through the Salafi method of disclosure, not the Sufi method.

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good. May Allah protect you and bless you. We know this. Please, go ahead.

The Shaykh : Those who deal with the jinn, have they known them?
The student: No.

The Shaykh : So they are dealing with an unknown realm.
The student: Peace be upon you.

The Shaykh: And upon you peace.
The student : Our neighbor, the brother Sa'd.

The Shaykh : Welcome. How are you? So, do you agree with me that those who deal with the jinn are dealing with people whose good and evil they do not know?
The student: Yes.

The Shaykh : Fine, but earlier a questioner asked, "What if they are Muslims?" From where did you know their Islam? I say that on such an occasion, we deal with humans for many years, and then it is revealed that they are bad.
The student : Bad, yes.

The Shaykh : So what can you say about a realm you do not see? Therefore, I said that dealing with the jinn is deception, and the uncovering of so-called treasures is deception. And this deception confirms to you that those who practice this profession are the poorest of people.
The student : The richest of them, my teacher.

The Shaykh: No.
The student : I have evidence, but between you and me.

The Shaykh : Oh, fine, keep it between us. I have a note, I have a comment. Where is my soul?
The student : It is there, it is there.

The Shaykh : Yes, because the comment is related to his question regarding...
The student : ... the era of wine and grapes.

The Shaykh : No, regarding divorce.
The student : The divorce.

The Shaykh : Yes, yes, yes. In any case.
The student : But he is asking a light question, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Get permission from the head of the session here.
The student : ... regarding Abu Yusuf.

The Shaykh : Who?
The student : The brother Salim, Professor Salim.

The Shaykh: All right.
The student : Please, go ahead.

The Shaykh : I have no objection. You say it, and without justification, yes.
The student : ... among people, what do you do?