Discussion regarding the tightening of restrictions on the Salafis.

The Shaykh : You mean the first category of scholars by your words.

The questioner : The righteous ones, at least in my opinion.

The Shaykh : Of course, it is in your opinion, and I am currently following your opinion because we will reach a point where, if we differ on other matters, we will not differ on this one. So, these righteous scholars, who is their master?

The questioner : The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).

The Shaykh : Good. Who is next in virtue after him?

The questioner : Of course, his Companions, and those after them.

The Shaykh : Abu Bakr, and you are descending this word of equality that I said earlier, which we do not differ on, correct?

The questioner : That is fine.

The Shaykh : Good. Was it in your knowledge that Abu Bakr would stand up for the Master of Mankind?

The questioner : I mean, he took the prohibition directly from the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him).

The Shaykh : No, you, don't prolong it.

The questioner : If there is a scope for the ruling of the Shari'ah that it is so, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) taught us so, the Sunnah of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is clear. And if there is no scope, what do we do? We cannot keep sitting; it becomes a matter greater than contradicting the Sunnah.

The Shaykh : May Allah forgive you.

The questioner : May Allah accept it.

The Shaykh : First, if I were to answer you based on your manner, and I will not answer you based on your manner so that you do not cheat, I would say to you, no problem if there is no scope. But we are talking about there being scopes instead of a scope. And we are not talking now. Stay with me. If your minister, whom you have been afflicted with anew, has the concept that if a tribe from these Arab tribes, if King Hussein enters them, they do not stand up for him, do you think your minister, if they do not stand up for him, would say, "You are arrogant, you are haughty"?

The questioner : By Allah, if he has the basic information, I do not think he would say it. He should not say it.

The Shaykh: Okay

The questioner : If he knows that they do not stand up for someone greater than him.

The Shaykh : He is like that. So now, he knows that in the Jordanian arena there is a Salafi group. Does he hold a grudge against them with the strongest grudge?

The questioner : There is no power nor strength except with Allah.

The Shaykh : Does he know or does he not know?

The questioner : He knows that there are Salafis, of course.

The Shaykh : No, not just that. He knows and holds a grudge against them with the strongest grudge. Is the earth inhabited? No, don't record. Good.

The questioner : No, it is not like that.

The Shaykh : His livelihood is in the hands of his minister.

The questioner : It has no relation to him. But I am saying that he holds a grudge against them with the strongest grudge. By Allah, I did not know this directly from him.

The Shaykh : Allahu Akbar.

The questioner : I heard from him many times, and he says that I mean I intervene in the matters that others believe in. By Allah, I heard this from him many times. As for whether he holds a grudge, I hope to Allah the Mighty and Majestic that it is not so.

Another questioner : And we hope so too, O our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : We hope, but we are not like the ostrich. I did not know until now. Did you know before, and now you have come to not know?

The questioner : The man, by Allah, my relationship with him is like that of any one of the people. There is not that direct relationship between me and him. As for holding a grudge, according to my information, he does not hold a grudge against them.

The Shaykh : It is not necessary that there is a relationship between the two parties speaking now, between one of them and the minister. It is you, not me.

The questioner : By Allah, my relationship as an employee, there is no direct relationship between me and him.

The Shaykh : My brother, I am burdening you with details. Why are you like one seeking to delete it with his nail? I am not asking you for details.

The questioner : I know him as many people know him.

The Shaykh : I am speaking if any of us two has a connection with him, regardless of the degree of the connection. It is you, not me.

The questioner : Correct.

The Shaykh : Good. This answer, you should not sit and build castles on the edge of a cliff. It is you, not me. But I know that he is a bitter enemy of the Salafis and the Salafi call. How is it for you, and you have that connection with him, whatever it is? I have no connection, and I know that he is a bitter enemy. How do you not know him?

The questioner : I mean, my belief, my conviction, is that it is a personal matter with Abu Malik.

The Shaykh : May Allah guide you. May Allah guide us. Did it reach you a television session he held recently, in which he spoke about what concerns Jumu'ah and the Sunnah prayer before it, I think not, and he said a word indicating that the man, I mean, he does not have political wisdom. I do not say Shari'ah politics, because one who has no knowledge of the Book and the Sunnah does not have politics. He says that he places his foot on the neck of the one who says so on this television.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, the important thing

The questioner : By Allah, I did not hear it, even on that day it was said to me, but I did not attend.

The Shaykh : O Professor Ali, may Allah guide you.

The questioner : May Allah accept it. By Allah, I did not attend this meeting.

The Shaykh : But this means a reservation, it is not very appreciated, because the issue is not a partial, qualitative issue. I did not hear it. A man whose history is against the Sunnah...

The questioner : I said, did you hear it? My answer, I tell the truth, I did not hear it. Regardless of the Shari'ah ruling on the individuals.
Al-Halabi : You visitedThe Shaykh : Al-Barqawi a few days ago, O our Shaykh, and he was in France, so we came and were happy, we visited him to soften the atmosphere, as is not hidden from you in the recent period. Among the things we talked about, he said, "By Allah, a letter, I mean a document, came to me in the month of Ramadan from the ministry, signed by Ali al-Faqir officially. He said that..."

The Shaykh : Signed by whom?
Al-Halabi : By Ali al-Faqir.

The Shaykh : By the same
Al-Halabi : Personally, by the same minister. He said, "If everyone sends you news about him that he breaks his fast before the Adhan, hand him over to the governor directly in Amman." He said, "By the solemn oath, this is Al-Barqawi. He said, 'By Allah, I hid the document, I did not circulate it.' He said, 'The document is also with me now, I will show it to you. I hid it.'"

The Shaykh : Also, this, my brother, catch it with its tail, he has no news of it.The Shaykh : Ali is poor.
Al-Halabi : Allahu Akbar. O, a matter of methodology, a matter of da'wah.

The Shaykh : Desires.

The questioner : Hand him over to the governor because he breaks his fast on the Sunnah, while these who break their fast...

The Shaykh : The desires of today, they are stirring up trouble yesterday and today behind our brother Muhammad, the one who comes to study with you, Muhammad Rida. He is the mu'adhdhin in al-Salihiyyah, which you know, on the highway there. He calls to prayer when he sees the dawn clearly. They are stirring up trouble because news reached them about the obligation of attending our gathering today for the Waqf, because news reached them that Allah will take revenge on them. And Allah, the disbelievers are ashamed that they accuse their Muslim brothers with such accusations. He says he calls to prayer two hours before the dawn. And if the first adhan, which this man introduced—and I do not say he innovated it, because it has a basis in the Sunnah, but its basis in the Sunnah is not with this distance, as you know—if the second adhan is called before the Shari'ah time by a time difference of between a third of an hour and half an hour, then how much earlier must the first adhan be? At least three-quarters of an hour, at least. So if our brother is accused of calling to prayer two hours before the dawn, it means he is calling to prayer about an hour and a bit before the first adhan. What is this accusation? Which madman would call to prayer in the middle of the night and contradict all the people, government and people? That is how they are accusing him, he is telling me and consulting me. I said to him, "My brother, these are like a man who has a right against a person, claiming fifty dinars, but he files a lawsuit for five hundred dinars just to get the fifty. So these people are accusing the Muslims so that he will say, 'I seek refuge in Allah, I am like this.' So what is the story? Tell us the story. It is an intelligence method. Well done. May Allah destroy their homes. The important thing—and peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy and blessings—I said to him, "You must go, of course." He said, "Yes." I said to him, "How do you want to speak the truth, or do you want to twist and turn? If you want to twist and turn, do not lengthen the explanation. Tell them, 'My lord, as you wish.' And if you want to speak the truth, and sustenance is with Allah—not as some people think that we must accommodate and hide because our sustenance is in their hands—then tell him as follows: 'You are broadcasting two adhans, and the second adhan, according to the timetable published by the Ministry of Waqf. The Ministry of Waqf writes at the back of every page, taking into account the time difference. Tell them: "Our mosque is on a mountain, and we see the dawn when it appears and rises like the rising of the sun. And our Lord says, as you know, the noble verse: — May Allah reward you, O engineer — So, in my capacity as being in a place where I see the dawn with my own eyes, I call to prayer according to the Shari'ah command first, and according to the Ministry of Waqf's attention second. And see what Allah wills: either they will acknowledge the truth, or they will tell you, 'It is not possible, the system does not allow you to call a third adhan.' At that point, as I tell you, either you walk together on a straight path, or you say, 'Your hearts have made us independent of your sustenance.' — In the name of Allah — This is all from the pursuit of your minister, because this man told me that they heard something about this person, that he has Salafi ideas and the like. — And peace be upon you — So he went to the mosque there to pray there. I no longer remember if it was the midday or afternoon prayer. He asked him a few questions and came forward to pray as imam. He said to me, "By Allah, we did not know how to pray a prayer with all this haste. There was no tranquility in the bowing, nor in the prostration, nor in any pillar of the prayer. So it appears this was a preparation for his request to interrogate him. So it is strange, by Allah, that you, even today, do not know your rulers."
Al-Halabi : Our Shaykh, who is the one the minister himself wants to pray two rak'ahs in front of? He told me the same brother.

The Shaykh : I think he did not tell me.
Al-Halabi : No, he said to me, "Who is the one who prays two rak'ahs?" I said, "I must perform wudu." I took a little time until the iqamah was called, so that they would see if he prays a Salafi prayer or not.

The Shaykh : A test.
Al-Halabi : Democracy for the disbelievers, but for the Muslims, and in the mosques, the houses of Allah, we cannot speak here.

Another questioner : ... .

The questioner : Now, listen, Abu Mahmud wants to go out... The truth is, some actions indicate that the man... Abu Mahmud is going to perform Hajj this year. He tells you he is trying to get a first-class ticket, but there is no room. They gave us a ticket... There is one person who knows the minister; after five or six days, we give him a first-class ticket by phone. Abu Suwailm gave him one after he had finished Hajj. When we were with him, he gave him his car after he had closed the door of the Hajj, and there are people who are unable to go out.

The Shaykh : I am changed toward you, because I used to know you as someone who was aware of people's conditions.

The questioner : By Allah, my relationship with him is from a distance. I have never even attended his sermon or lesson. There is no direct contact from long ago.

The Shaykh : Therefore, I say I am changed toward you.
Al-Halabi : I did not hear him when he explained the folds of al-Wada' and corrected the hadith "The full moon has risen for us." He said, "What are these madmen thinking? There is only one fold."

The questioner : Peace be upon you

The Shaykh : And peace be upon you, and Allah's mercy and blessings. How are you? By Allah, it is a simple matter. Welcome, Doctor, how are you? Excuse me, how are you? May Allah bless you. Welcome, how are you all? I hope you are well. Welcome and always welcome. How are you? How are the children and the boys? They are all well, if Allah wills. You are not tired? You are exhausted, and this is what is exhausting us.
The attendees andThe Shaykh : They are laughing
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