Continuing the discussion on those who claim strictness in the Salafis.
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The questioner : Regarding the topic, for example in education, Adnan said about the issue of pointing... the Messenger (peace be upon him)... so the topic of... does the denial of the Messenger (peace be upon him) indicate pointing?
The Shaykh : It is in the sermon of the Farewell Pilgrimage, and it is one of the arguments of the Salafis against the Khalafis who deny pointing, let alone explicit expression; that a person says: Allah is above the heavens or He is established upon the Throne. That the Messenger, when he delivered the sermon:. There is nothing wrong with pointing, but the truth is that pointing is denied by the deniers, whom we call the Mu'attilah. So I fear, and I fear greatly, that our brother Adnan is influenced by this trend; and therefore I want to hear from him; meaning, in truth, we need to admit that his appearance was very intense, that what is it? There is strictness among them, and he started with a fabrication attributed to Ibn Taymiyyah which is, of course, not correct, and then when he realized it, he went back and said: You said just now, yes, what is in it? There is nothing in it, if we truly believe in what came in the Book and the Sunnah that Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is above the heavens, knowing that this being above is not like our being above; because those who are below us, we in America and elsewhere - also - Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is above them - also -; so this is among the proofs that the divine being above is not like the king being above his throne; so [Ash-Shuraa 42:11], so this appearance he made, and the example he did not hit the mark with in illustrating it, is what completely caught my attention, and to this day I am asking him for the example that expresses this strictness, as for his humming around these issues, we say: First, if we ourselves, I am incidentally speaking on this issue, I wrote an introduction, I think it is for "Al-'Uluw" (The Exaltation), "Mukhtasar al-'Uluw" by al-Hafiz al-Dhahabi, you must have seen it, is it not so?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Oh?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : If this introduction was one you had looked into and you posed some questions about it, then I naturally posed them.
Another questioner : I will put many questions for you...
The Shaykh : Allow me, allow me.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No problem, but my intention is to say that among the Islamic principles is that no bearer of a burden shall bear the burden of another, so if we are strict, show us, if others are also strict, show us so that we may take them into account, and yet we have not heard until now the type of strictness, as for the issue of humming or the humming, you must feel the reason for it, the reason is that the atmosphere is empty, no one is speaking about these issues, not in the mosques, not in the lectures, not on the radio, not at all, and so on; so if you find a person in every session raising the creed of belief in the attributes mentioned in the Book and the Sunnah, do not be surprised by that; because no one is speaking about these issues.
The questioner : It is considered odd.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : Even to the point of being considered odd.
The Shaykh : Ah, speaking about it is considered odd, ah, what can you say when in truth we sit for long sessions and do not touch this research at all, right or not? In any case, may Allah guide us to the straight path.
The questioner : Regarding... you spoke about me just now.
The Shaykh : And what is it?
The questioner : That I made an appearance with speech and so on; the point is, in truth, I do not know...
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : The intention of my speech on this topic was that I feel, in my opinion, that the style... and the details that these answers touched upon need more clarification and focus on more explanatory aspects, in such a way that the other parties who use such speech to insinuate against the Salafi thought... this was my opinion.
The Shaykh : Was that your intention?
The questioner : That was my intention and I said...
The Shaykh : No, your wording was not that.
The questioner : So ask the brothers, I...
The Shaykh : No, you need to ask yourself, my brother, we do not want to make the brothers testify, did you not use the word strictness?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, I did not say: strictness just now.
The questioner : I am saying now: strictness.
The Shaykh : Come on, my brother, when you summarized your opinion, you did not mention strictness.
The questioner : ... the word strictness.
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah! ... Good, if Allah wills.
The questioner : The word strictness means focus... emphasis on a specific thing, the intention is not the thought, I, I intend the style.
The Shaykh : I did not speak of style and thought, the word strictness and I brought the previous example; even in the previous example, in reality, what does this indicate? The example I cited about Ibn Taymiyyah or you started citing it, this does not support your speech that it is organizing the style and not the style.
The questioner : No, it supports it because my intention in this was that even if this is correct or similar to it, that there are people who cling to a way of interpreting specific words and their style in presenting this, meaning if this Imam was correct to do this, and Ibn Taymiyyah or others, I do not know.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : If it was correct to do this, his style would be wrong...
The Shaykh : This is a style...
The questioner : And not just a style, and.
The Shaykh : Do you see how? This is not a style - may Allah guide you - , it is a story, if it is true, it has no relation to style, this is strictness in the creed.
Another questioner : Meaning, Professor.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Another questioner : The topic of strictness... meaning you know, you don't need anyone to define it for you; meaning it is said - for example - that the topic of strictness occurs among the Salafis...
The Shaykh : But the word "it is said": attribute it to its people.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Who says it about the Salafis?
Another questioner : The enemies of the Salafis and some of the Salafis.
The Shaykh : What is the value of this?
Another questioner : And some of the Salafis.
The Shaykh : No, some of the Salafis do not say this about the Salafis.
Another questioner : Some of those who claim affiliation say it about their Shaykh, meaning.
The Shaykh : It is not the Salafis who say this, it is one person who has a disease in himself, a delusion in himself - Allah knows best - , the important thing is that our research is in the Da'wah as a Da'wah, we are not speaking about an individual.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So I cannot speak with you while you represent the Salafi Da'wah.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : That is it, as for you, you may be strict, you may be tolerant, you may be lenient; this is not attributed to the Da'wah.
Another questioner : By virtue of living with the Salafis through what, meaning, happens from the Salafis in this time.
The Shaykh : No, not through what is issued from the Salafis.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Through what is issued from some of them.
Another questioner : Strictness in the creed.
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner : Strictness in the creed is not a blame; if the creed is clear, there is no compromise in it, if strictness is taken to mean adherence and clinging...
The Shaykh : Also this...
Another questioner : ... a person believes, what does the creed mean? I believe... strictness in it means no tolerance, no overlooking, and no middle ground; this... does not declare how we look at the word...
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
Another questioner : No, it is not a matter of the creed.
The questioner : I mean, they are joking a lot about the talk of above and below and so on...
Another questioner : Oh Adnan, if the matter is in the creed...
The questioner : ... it is all in the talk.
Another questioner : Did you know about me how? Or I tell you something in this line... line... the intention of what I mean is that... the others understand this manner or this establishment... the others, other than the Salafis, there is no disagreement between us as long as the issue is[Ash-Shuraa 42:11], and they in turn interpret it figuratively; if this is the intention, there is strictness here; because the intention is that we believe likewise, and they believe likewise, as for...
The Shaykh: And upon you peace.
Another questioner : It is... a dangerous topic... it is no longer an easy topic; meaning it is no longer.
Another questioner : It is the strictness of the topic of above and below... from what has become widespread is that people support, meaning the majority of people... everywhere, and it is opposed by...
Another questioner : And this is what is known among people, this is... when a person is... he sees this speech and when he hears this speech, merely... it is difficult for him; because whoever is ignorant of something...
...
The Shaykh : ... it does not bear research anymore, what do you want in it, he was able to attend.
Another questioner : Strictness means the reality of the Salafis today, meaning our Salafi brothers, that this opinion, meaning the one the Shaykh sees and adopts, of course, and the rest of the opinions that are mentioned... the sayings are many in the issues.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Another questioner : They attribute to it ignorance, misguidance, and error, like this, openly, in broad daylight.
The Shaykh : Who is this?
Another questioner : By Allah, a lot...
The Shaykh : This, for example.
Another questioner: Many.
The Shaykh : This.
Another questioner : This is one of them, ah.
The Shaykh : And this?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: He accused him, let's see.
Another questioner: ... I accuse him, and his father before him!! [The questioner laughs!].
The Shaykh: You accuse... it's easy.
Another questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: But the important thing is that you prove it, if it was so.
Another questioner: But I know them from the Salafis... .
The Shaykh: Prove it to him, prove it to him, advise him.
Another questioner: No, this is good!
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner: Yes, be careful.
Another questioner: Do you not feel, Professor, that they have strictness in their views and the views of their Shaykh; such that the other views are error and misguidance, and so on?
The Shaykh : For example?
Another questioner: Yes, he wants to demolish it for you.
Another questioner: One of them, I mean.
The Shaykh : For example?
The questioner: No, for example, the issue of the tarawih prayer, the tarawih prayer.
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: ... in it. No; the sunnah of Friday, I say, great imams explicitly state its dislike, but the sunnah of tarawih, the tarawih prayer, we found great imams saying that it is more than eleven, twenty-three, thirty-six, forty and more... Is this what happens, the madhhab of Imam Malik, for example, or the madhhab of Imam al-Shafi'i, and he has an excuse in that a trustworthy, memorizing, knowledgeable imam from this Ummah said this saying.
The Shaykh: By Allah, if you were not a Salafi, you would not know how to speak this speech?!
Another questioner: Strange, of course.
The Shaykh: If you were not a Salafi, you would not know how to speak this speech!
Another questioner : This is correct, this is correct.
The Shaykh: Okay; so then?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... May Allah guide you.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Where is the purification? You are holding people accountable for the actions of others; I mean, now some Companions strayed from the people, are you holding the other Companions accountable?
The questioner : No, of course.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you and those behind you, you and those behind you, say: Ameen.
The questioner: But really, by Allah, many of them really do this, Professor, and I am one of them, I see, he denies it to you and to them.
The Shaykh: I am seeing with my own eyes, I am telling you!
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
Another questioner: My master, I want to go back and stand in place of the Shaykh.
The questioner: And do not be silent to him, O Abu Bilal!
Another questioner : ... .
Another questioner: ... I mean, what is this thing?
Another questioner: ... the Mother of the Believers, A'ishah - may Allah be pleased with her - .
Another questioner: Okay; here is the Mother of the Believers, A'ishah.
Another questioner: Okay; and it is necessary that Muhammad ibn Abdullah, the master of the children of Adam - peace be upon him - when... her sister, that... her husband, and he was one who performed 'Umrah, she stood up to perform 'Umrah while in the 'iddah and contradicted the Companions... not any other person.
...
Another questioner: The Shaykh is now being explicit... ... .
Another questioner: Listen a little, O Abu Bilal, the issue, my brothers, by Allah, there is... .
Another questioner: Yes.
The questioner: You said that we say by it and we excuse the dissenters, I want this from you, this wording.
The Shaykh: Not just like that, I said, do not take some of the words and leave some.
Another questioner: Please, please... .
The Shaykh: I said: The issue, if there is a text, we adopt the text and do not look at the other opinions, but if the issue has only a hadith or a verse that is disputed in its understanding, then we prefer what is preferred to us and we excuse the others.
The questioner: Perfect, we need this speech to be adopted by the Salafis just as they adopt your other opinions.
The Shaykh: I have no power over myself.
Another questioner: No, you want to study them and teach them this, you tell them: This is the truth.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you, I have been studying this thing for thirty-three years, from Damascus to here, if you do not adopt it, what can we do for you?
Another questioner: No, what is between you and me? The speech is not about me.
The Shaykh: If it was... what is between you and me.
The questioner: No, no, no, leave it, O... .
...
The Shaykh: ... if you heard a word from me as advice... .
Another questioner: ... I am excused from warning.
The Shaykh: Okay; and this is what we did, and praise be to Allah... .
Another questioner: My master, regarding fasting.
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner: There is a hadith... about fasting.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: ... there is no evidence for it.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes, but the important thing is to hasten to the extent of ability; because a person does not have control over himself... .
The questioner: If he is in a state of illness... .
The Shaykh: I am saying, whenever he makes it up, the situation is fine.
There is no power and no strength except with Allah.
The Shaykh : It is in the sermon of the Farewell Pilgrimage, and it is one of the arguments of the Salafis against the Khalafis who deny pointing, let alone explicit expression; that a person says: Allah is above the heavens or He is established upon the Throne. That the Messenger, when he delivered the sermon:
Verily, your blood, your honor, and your wealth are forbidden to you as the sanctity of this day of yours, in this month of yours, in this year of yours, in this land of yours; O Allah, be a witness
ألا إن دماءكم وأعراضكم وأموالكم حرام عليكم كحرمة يومكم هذا ، في شهركم هذا ، في عامكم هذا ، في بلدكم هذا ؛ اللهم فاشهدO Allah, be a witness
اللهم فاشهدThere is nothing like unto Him
لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌAnother questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Oh?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : If this introduction was one you had looked into and you posed some questions about it, then I naturally posed them.
Another questioner : I will put many questions for you...
The Shaykh : Allow me, allow me.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No problem, but my intention is to say that among the Islamic principles is that no bearer of a burden shall bear the burden of another, so if we are strict, show us, if others are also strict, show us so that we may take them into account, and yet we have not heard until now the type of strictness, as for the issue of humming or the humming, you must feel the reason for it, the reason is that the atmosphere is empty, no one is speaking about these issues, not in the mosques, not in the lectures, not on the radio, not at all, and so on; so if you find a person in every session raising the creed of belief in the attributes mentioned in the Book and the Sunnah, do not be surprised by that; because no one is speaking about these issues.
The questioner : It is considered odd.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : Even to the point of being considered odd.
The Shaykh : Ah, speaking about it is considered odd, ah, what can you say when in truth we sit for long sessions and do not touch this research at all, right or not? In any case, may Allah guide us to the straight path.
The questioner : Regarding... you spoke about me just now.
The Shaykh : And what is it?
The questioner : That I made an appearance with speech and so on; the point is, in truth, I do not know...
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : The intention of my speech on this topic was that I feel, in my opinion, that the style... and the details that these answers touched upon need more clarification and focus on more explanatory aspects, in such a way that the other parties who use such speech to insinuate against the Salafi thought... this was my opinion.
The Shaykh : Was that your intention?
The questioner : That was my intention and I said...
The Shaykh : No, your wording was not that.
The questioner : So ask the brothers, I...
The Shaykh : No, you need to ask yourself, my brother, we do not want to make the brothers testify, did you not use the word strictness?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No, I did not say: strictness just now.
The questioner : I am saying now: strictness.
The Shaykh : Come on, my brother, when you summarized your opinion, you did not mention strictness.
The questioner : ... the word strictness.
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah! ... Good, if Allah wills.
The questioner : The word strictness means focus... emphasis on a specific thing, the intention is not the thought, I, I intend the style.
The Shaykh : I did not speak of style and thought, the word strictness and I brought the previous example; even in the previous example, in reality, what does this indicate? The example I cited about Ibn Taymiyyah or you started citing it, this does not support your speech that it is organizing the style and not the style.
The questioner : No, it supports it because my intention in this was that even if this is correct or similar to it, that there are people who cling to a way of interpreting specific words and their style in presenting this, meaning if this Imam was correct to do this, and Ibn Taymiyyah or others, I do not know.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : If it was correct to do this, his style would be wrong...
The Shaykh : This is a style...
The questioner : And not just a style, and.
The Shaykh : Do you see how? This is not a style - may Allah guide you - , it is a story, if it is true, it has no relation to style, this is strictness in the creed.
Another questioner : Meaning, Professor.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Another questioner : The topic of strictness... meaning you know, you don't need anyone to define it for you; meaning it is said - for example - that the topic of strictness occurs among the Salafis...
The Shaykh : But the word "it is said": attribute it to its people.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Who says it about the Salafis?
Another questioner : The enemies of the Salafis and some of the Salafis.
The Shaykh : What is the value of this?
Another questioner : And some of the Salafis.
The Shaykh : No, some of the Salafis do not say this about the Salafis.
Another questioner : Some of those who claim affiliation say it about their Shaykh, meaning.
The Shaykh : It is not the Salafis who say this, it is one person who has a disease in himself, a delusion in himself - Allah knows best - , the important thing is that our research is in the Da'wah as a Da'wah, we are not speaking about an individual.
Another questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : So I cannot speak with you while you represent the Salafi Da'wah.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : That is it, as for you, you may be strict, you may be tolerant, you may be lenient; this is not attributed to the Da'wah.
Another questioner : By virtue of living with the Salafis through what, meaning, happens from the Salafis in this time.
The Shaykh : No, not through what is issued from the Salafis.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Through what is issued from some of them.
Another questioner : Strictness in the creed.
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner : Strictness in the creed is not a blame; if the creed is clear, there is no compromise in it, if strictness is taken to mean adherence and clinging...
The Shaykh : Also this...
Another questioner : ... a person believes, what does the creed mean? I believe... strictness in it means no tolerance, no overlooking, and no middle ground; this... does not declare how we look at the word...
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah.
Another questioner : No, it is not a matter of the creed.
The questioner : I mean, they are joking a lot about the talk of above and below and so on...
Another questioner : Oh Adnan, if the matter is in the creed...
The questioner : ... it is all in the talk.
Another questioner : Did you know about me how? Or I tell you something in this line... line... the intention of what I mean is that... the others understand this manner or this establishment... the others, other than the Salafis, there is no disagreement between us as long as the issue is
There is nothing like unto Him
لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌThe Shaykh: And upon you peace.
Another questioner : It is... a dangerous topic... it is no longer an easy topic; meaning it is no longer.
Another questioner : It is the strictness of the topic of above and below... from what has become widespread is that people support, meaning the majority of people... everywhere, and it is opposed by...
Another questioner : And this is what is known among people, this is... when a person is... he sees this speech and when he hears this speech, merely... it is difficult for him; because whoever is ignorant of something...
...
The Shaykh : ... it does not bear research anymore, what do you want in it, he was able to attend.
Another questioner : Strictness means the reality of the Salafis today, meaning our Salafi brothers, that this opinion, meaning the one the Shaykh sees and adopts, of course, and the rest of the opinions that are mentioned... the sayings are many in the issues.
The Shaykh: Yes.
Another questioner : They attribute to it ignorance, misguidance, and error, like this, openly, in broad daylight.
The Shaykh : Who is this?
Another questioner : By Allah, a lot...
The Shaykh : This, for example.
Another questioner: Many.
The Shaykh : This.
Another questioner : This is one of them, ah.
The Shaykh : And this?
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: He accused him, let's see.
Another questioner: ... I accuse him, and his father before him!! [The questioner laughs!].
The Shaykh: You accuse... it's easy.
Another questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: But the important thing is that you prove it, if it was so.
Another questioner: But I know them from the Salafis... .
The Shaykh: Prove it to him, prove it to him, advise him.
Another questioner: No, this is good!
The Shaykh : Yes.
Another questioner: Yes, be careful.
Another questioner: Do you not feel, Professor, that they have strictness in their views and the views of their Shaykh; such that the other views are error and misguidance, and so on?
The Shaykh : For example?
Another questioner: Yes, he wants to demolish it for you.
Another questioner: One of them, I mean.
The Shaykh : For example?
The questioner: No, for example, the issue of the tarawih prayer, the tarawih prayer.
Another questioner : ... .
The questioner: ... in it. No; the sunnah of Friday, I say, great imams explicitly state its dislike, but the sunnah of tarawih, the tarawih prayer, we found great imams saying that it is more than eleven, twenty-three, thirty-six, forty and more... Is this what happens, the madhhab of Imam Malik, for example, or the madhhab of Imam al-Shafi'i, and he has an excuse in that a trustworthy, memorizing, knowledgeable imam from this Ummah said this saying.
The Shaykh: By Allah, if you were not a Salafi, you would not know how to speak this speech?!
Another questioner: Strange, of course.
The Shaykh: If you were not a Salafi, you would not know how to speak this speech!
Another questioner : This is correct, this is correct.
The Shaykh: Okay; so then?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... May Allah guide you.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Where is the purification? You are holding people accountable for the actions of others; I mean, now some Companions strayed from the people, are you holding the other Companions accountable?
The questioner : No, of course.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you and those behind you, you and those behind you, say: Ameen.
The questioner: But really, by Allah, many of them really do this, Professor, and I am one of them, I see, he denies it to you and to them.
The Shaykh: I am seeing with my own eyes, I am telling you!
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.
Another questioner: My master, I want to go back and stand in place of the Shaykh.
The questioner: And do not be silent to him, O Abu Bilal!
Another questioner : ... .
Another questioner: ... I mean, what is this thing?
Another questioner: ... the Mother of the Believers, A'ishah - may Allah be pleased with her - .
Another questioner: Okay; here is the Mother of the Believers, A'ishah.
Another questioner: Okay; and it is necessary that Muhammad ibn Abdullah, the master of the children of Adam - peace be upon him - when... her sister, that... her husband, and he was one who performed 'Umrah, she stood up to perform 'Umrah while in the 'iddah and contradicted the Companions... not any other person.
...
Another questioner: The Shaykh is now being explicit... ... .
Another questioner: Listen a little, O Abu Bilal, the issue, my brothers, by Allah, there is... .
Another questioner: Yes.
The questioner: You said that we say by it and we excuse the dissenters, I want this from you, this wording.
The Shaykh: Not just like that, I said, do not take some of the words and leave some.
Another questioner: Please, please... .
The Shaykh: I said: The issue, if there is a text, we adopt the text and do not look at the other opinions, but if the issue has only a hadith or a verse that is disputed in its understanding, then we prefer what is preferred to us and we excuse the others.
The questioner: Perfect, we need this speech to be adopted by the Salafis just as they adopt your other opinions.
The Shaykh: I have no power over myself.
Another questioner: No, you want to study them and teach them this, you tell them: This is the truth.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you, I have been studying this thing for thirty-three years, from Damascus to here, if you do not adopt it, what can we do for you?
Another questioner: No, what is between you and me? The speech is not about me.
The Shaykh: If it was... what is between you and me.
The questioner: No, no, no, leave it, O... .
...
The Shaykh: ... if you heard a word from me as advice... .
Another questioner: ... I am excused from warning.
The Shaykh: Okay; and this is what we did, and praise be to Allah... .
Another questioner: My master, regarding fasting.
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner: There is a hadith... about fasting.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: ... there is no evidence for it.
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: Yes, but the important thing is to hasten to the extent of ability; because a person does not have control over himself... .
The questioner: If he is in a state of illness... .
The Shaykh: I am saying, whenever he makes it up, the situation is fine.
There is no power and no strength except with Allah.
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