The sects and groups have existed since ancient times, so why did the scholars not call for stopping jihad and focusing on purification and education?

The student: Okay, can I ask a question, Shaykh?

The Shaykh: ... So, what is your creation now?
The student : Hehehe.

The Shaykh: : Ask, go ahead.
The student: : Can I ask if the cause of the groups is only ... and the increase of imams in our current time, or were there also groups and sects in the past, in previous eras?

The Shaykh: : No, no, we will give you an answer according to your way. Were there groups?
The student: : Were there groups?

The Shaykh: : According to your way, we are telling you.
The student: All right.

The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: : May Allah bless you. I am not asking according to my own way; I am asking, if Allah wills, for the good, if Allah wills, for the truth.

The Shaykh: : If it is not for the good, we will not give it to you according to your way.
The student : Hehehe.
The student: : No, no ... I am also for the good, just as you, sir, love the good.

The Shaykh: : If it were not for the good, we would not give it to you. We are telling you according to your way, O Shaykh.
The student: : Ah, okay ... .

The Shaykh: Hehehe.
The student: : So, the sects, groups, and imams have existed since the Khawarij emerged.

The Shaykh : Yes.
The student : Correct?

The Shaykh: : A hundred, correct.
The student: : May Allah bless you, and this matter continued in the second eras until our present time, or not?

The Shaykh: : Yes, you are wasting time! You tell others that you are wasting time.
The student: : No, I am not wasting time.

The Shaykh: : You are wasting time in self-evident matters ... .
The student: No...

The Shaykh: : Correct, correct, correct.
The student: : Okay, did any of the scholars in the past call for purification and education?

The Shaykh: : Of course, all of them ... .
The student: : Called for stopping jihad until purification and education ... .

The Shaykh: Got the answer?
The student : Hmm.

The Shaykh: Got the answer?
The student: : You got the answer, but ... .

The Shaykh: : What is the answer? When you asked, was it that one of the scholars called for purification and education?
The student: : Ah, from this one.

The Shaykh : This is the question.
The student: : With leaving jihad?
The student: : His answer, he answered you completely.
The student: : With leaving jihad?
The student: : This is a second question, it has become like this.

The Shaykh: : When you asked, one of the scholars ... .
The student: : Did they leave jihad and continue calling for purification and education?

The Shaykh: : I am speaking, what is your role in the conversation now? Did you not ask?
The student: : I am still finishing my question.

The Shaykh: : Ah ... .
The student: : Okay, listen to the answer ... .
Another student : No, you finish your question.
The student: : I must finish my question.
Another student : Please.
The student: : Is there any of the previous scholars, despite the presence of the differing groups and imams of the many sects that we hear about in the old books, which may not exist today as they do in the present, did ... did the people who hold fast to the Book and the Sunnah on the path of the Salaf, did they all withdraw and bite on the root of the tree and leave knowledge and jihad?

The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The student: Amen, O Lord.

The Shaykh: : May Allah guide you. You are saying you are a memorizer of the hadith of Hudhayfah.
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh: : And you are not memorizing at least its meaning. The hadith I am telling you is: .
The student: : Important, they had many groups and many imams.

The Shaykh: : Wait, my brother.
The student: : All of them were Muslims.

The Shaykh: : Wait, the imams of the Muslims, I mean, the imams of the Muslims in jurisprudence, how many groups were there in their time?
The student: : There were many groups, I don't know which jurisprudence? The jurisprudence of the four imams, for example?

The Shaykh: : What are you in such a hurry for?
The student: : The jurisprudence of the four imams, or which jurisprudence do you mean?

The Shaykh: : We did not ... .
The student: : My uncle, talk to me, I am.

The Shaykh: : No, not with you now. He said what? He said, "Calm down, it is."
The student: Hehehe.

The Shaykh: : You are asking, you are asking.
The student: : I am asking you right now, were there groups? There were many groups and many imams.

The Shaykh: : And, my dear, I understood your question and I am answering you.
The student: : Go ahead.

The Shaykh: : ... I receive the answer from you, I will tell you, these are the imams of the Muslims that you are citing.
The student : Yes.

The Shaykh: : How many imams governed the Ummah, and how many mujahideen were fighting as imams in their time? Was there one group or groups? Were there imams, meaning sultans and caliphs, one, or two, or more?
The student: : There were many, no.

The Shaykh: : In the time of the imams of the Muslims.
The student: : Ah, there were many ... .

The Shaykh : ... .
The student: : ... the speech ... meaning ... .

The Shaykh: : ... the Muslims, the imams of the Muslims, my dear, the Muslims ... .
The student: : Ah, ah, they were all Muslims.

The Shaykh: : The famous imams of the Muslims, whose methodology is established, are not the four imams?
The student: : Where are the imams of the Muslims in the time of the four imams, I mean? I do not mean the time after them, there were many sects.

The Shaykh: : ... How many imams, how many caliphs were there ... .