The Error of Those Who Distinguish Between the Saved Sect and the Victorious Group

The Shaykh : Let me be frank with you now, and you, if Allah wills.
The student : We want nothing but frankness and the truth.

The Shaykh : In frankness and in calling to the word of truth, meaning the victorious group is the one that strives in the path of Allah by calling to the truth when the time demands supporting the call to truth with words, then with swords and spears when the time is the time for that. Now, do you see that everyone who is of the saved sect with sound creed and so on, shares with these people in this characteristic as a general reality?
The student : A general reality, you mean?

The Shaykh : That is it. So there is no need to magnify this issue or exaggerate it. There is generality and specificity. For example, every believer is a Muslim, but not every Muslim is a believer. But if we see a Muslim, what do we say? We do not say, "This one is not a believer," because we cannot. But from the standpoint of ruling by Islam, we are commanded to judge by the apparent, and Allah takes care of the hidden. So I am correcting this one who distinguishes between this and that if he makes it as I erred—I do not know if this reached you or not—in the fiqh of reality. I read my treatise.
The student : ... the fiqh of reality.

The Shaykh: Yes.
The student : I read it.

The Shaykh : I read it.
The student : This treatise is on the fiqh of reality, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Yes. So I corrected these people and approved them in one aspect, and corrected them in another aspect. In the fiqh of reality, there is no doubt that a scholar must know what he can know of reality, but he cannot specialize in knowing reality. So I said in the fiqh of reality, in the fiqh of language, in the fiqh of innovations, in the fiqh of such and such, and so on. It is not supposed that one person specializes in all these issues. So it is correct that there is a fiqh of reality, but it is not correct at all to announce this fiqh to all the people who need to understand tawhid (the oneness of Allah) by which they are saved from eternal abode in the Fire, at least.
The student : That is enough for them ... the acts of worship and transactions ... matters ... .

The Shaykh : Yes, that is it.
The student : This is the disagreement between us and ... .

The Shaykh : So, may Allah bless you, it is a disagreement, meaning I see it as a disagreement in style more than it is a disagreement in the essence, in the rule, in the methodology. Now, shall we pray Maghrib?
The student : By Allah, let us pray Maghrib, my Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Is there anyone who wants to renew his wudu' (the ablution for prayer)?
The student : No.

The Shaykh : Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest. I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah, I bear witness that there is no deity but Allah. I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, I bear witness that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah. Hurry to prayer, hurry to prayer. Hurry to success, hurry to success. Allah is the Greatest, Allah is the Greatest. There is no deity but Allah.
The student : O Allah, Lord of this perfect call and the established prayer.

The Shaykh : Is the device working or not?
The student : No.