What is the ruling on the hadith of Zayd ibn Thabit (that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) taught him and ordered him to recite it for his family every morning
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The questioner: Our Shaykh, regarding the question.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner: Regarding the hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said in it: “That the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) taught him and ordered him to recite it for his family every morning,” the hadith,Al-Mustadrak lil-Hakim 18:96 to the end of the hadith.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: Do you remember it, our Shaykh?
The Shaykh: No, I do not remember it.
The questioner: Okay, our Shaykh, this hadith ... .
The Shaykh: Where did you see this hadith?
The questioner: In al-Tabarani, Ahmad, and al-Hakim, our Shaykh. The chain in it has two weak narrators: the first is Bakr ibn Sahil al-Dimyati, and the second is 'Abdullah ibn Salih.
The Shaykh: No, this Bakr ibn Sahil al-Dimyati cannot possibly be in the chain of Imam Ahmad.
The questioner: No, he is not in the chain of Imam Ahmad.
The Shaykh: You are saying that Ahmad and al-Tabarani narrated it.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: Yes, it is not possible for this to be in the chain of Ahmad.
The questioner: No, it is not in the chain of Ahmad.
The Shaykh : So.
The questioner: Al-Tabarani.
The Shaykh : My brother.
The questioner: Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Ahmad is of a higher rank than al-Tabarani.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Al-Tabarani narrates from Ahmad through his son 'Abdullah.
The questioner: Yes, you are correct.
The Shaykh: So Bakr ibn Sahil would be a shaykh of al-Tabarani in the position of 'Abdullah ibn Ahmad.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: A shaykh of al-Tabarani as well, so what do you have to do with Bakr? Go up, go up, look at the chain of Imam Ahmad.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: I mean, it is not reasonable that Imam Ahmad would have taken it from someone who came after his son.
The questioner : You spoke the truth, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: But the chain of Imam Ahmad is in another route, another route ... .
The Shaykh: Okay, is there a weak narrator in the other route?
The questioner: There is Abu Bakr ibn Abi Maryam.
The Shaykh: Okay, and the route of al-Tabarani.
The questioner: There are two weak narrators.
The Shaykh: Who is the second one?
The questioner: 'Abdullah ibn Salih.
The Shaykh: 'Abdullah ibn Salih al-Misri.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: So this one has two weak narrators, and that chain has one weak narrator.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: So does it become strong?
The Shaykh: It appears that if there is nothing else, it becomes strong.
The questioner: Is there something, our Shaykh, that Dhimmah ibn Habib narrated in the route of Imam Ahmad from Abu al-Darda' from Zayd ibn Thabit, but in the route of al-Tabarani from Abu al-Darda' from Dhimmah ibn Habib from Zayd ibn Thabit, he dropped Abu al-Darda'?
The Shaykh: Dhimmah ibn Habib, he did not meet Abu al-Darda'.
The questioner: He did not meet him?
The Shaykh: I mean, did you check his biography?
The questioner: Yes, I checked it.
The Shaykh: Yes, did he meet Abu al-Darda'?
The questioner: Abu al-Darda' is mentioned in it.
The Shaykh: It is mentioned? I am not asking you if it is mentioned or not, my brother. Every broken chain will have the Companion mentioned in it, but the Tabi'i or the Tabi' al-Tabi'in.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: He is mentioned in the chain, but he did not meetThe Shaykh: the one from whom he narrated.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: So you should look into this point.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. In the safety of Allah, and you likewise. Welcome.
The Shaykh: Go ahead.
The questioner: Regarding the hadith, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said in it: “That the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) taught him and ordered him to recite it for his family every morning,” the hadith,
Labbaik Allahumma labbaik, wa sa'dayk, wa al-khayr fi yadayk, wa mink wa bika wa ilayk
لبيك اللهم لبيك ، وسعديك والخير في يديك ومنك وبك وإليكThe Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: Do you remember it, our Shaykh?
The Shaykh: No, I do not remember it.
The questioner: Okay, our Shaykh, this hadith ... .
The Shaykh: Where did you see this hadith?
The questioner: In al-Tabarani, Ahmad, and al-Hakim, our Shaykh. The chain in it has two weak narrators: the first is Bakr ibn Sahil al-Dimyati, and the second is 'Abdullah ibn Salih.
The Shaykh: No, this Bakr ibn Sahil al-Dimyati cannot possibly be in the chain of Imam Ahmad.
The questioner: No, he is not in the chain of Imam Ahmad.
The Shaykh: You are saying that Ahmad and al-Tabarani narrated it.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: Yes, it is not possible for this to be in the chain of Ahmad.
The questioner: No, it is not in the chain of Ahmad.
The Shaykh : So.
The questioner: Al-Tabarani.
The Shaykh : My brother.
The questioner: Yes, Shaykh.
The Shaykh: Ahmad is of a higher rank than al-Tabarani.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: Al-Tabarani narrates from Ahmad through his son 'Abdullah.
The questioner: Yes, you are correct.
The Shaykh: So Bakr ibn Sahil would be a shaykh of al-Tabarani in the position of 'Abdullah ibn Ahmad.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: A shaykh of al-Tabarani as well, so what do you have to do with Bakr? Go up, go up, look at the chain of Imam Ahmad.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: I mean, it is not reasonable that Imam Ahmad would have taken it from someone who came after his son.
The questioner : You spoke the truth, our Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: But the chain of Imam Ahmad is in another route, another route ... .
The Shaykh: Okay, is there a weak narrator in the other route?
The questioner: There is Abu Bakr ibn Abi Maryam.
The Shaykh: Okay, and the route of al-Tabarani.
The questioner: There are two weak narrators.
The Shaykh: Who is the second one?
The questioner: 'Abdullah ibn Salih.
The Shaykh: 'Abdullah ibn Salih al-Misri.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner: So this one has two weak narrators, and that chain has one weak narrator.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner: So does it become strong?
The Shaykh: It appears that if there is nothing else, it becomes strong.
The questioner: Is there something, our Shaykh, that Dhimmah ibn Habib narrated in the route of Imam Ahmad from Abu al-Darda' from Zayd ibn Thabit, but in the route of al-Tabarani from Abu al-Darda' from Dhimmah ibn Habib from Zayd ibn Thabit, he dropped Abu al-Darda'?
The Shaykh: Dhimmah ibn Habib, he did not meet Abu al-Darda'.
The questioner: He did not meet him?
The Shaykh: I mean, did you check his biography?
The questioner: Yes, I checked it.
The Shaykh: Yes, did he meet Abu al-Darda'?
The questioner: Abu al-Darda' is mentioned in it.
The Shaykh: It is mentioned? I am not asking you if it is mentioned or not, my brother. Every broken chain will have the Companion mentioned in it, but the Tabi'i or the Tabi' al-Tabi'in.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: He is mentioned in the chain, but he did not meetThe Shaykh: the one from whom he narrated.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh: So you should look into this point.
The questioner : Yes, may Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And beware of that.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace, and the mercy of Allah and His blessings.
The questioner: Peace be upon you.
The Shaykh: And upon you be peace and the mercy of Allah and His blessings. In the safety of Allah, and you likewise. Welcome.
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