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﴿ فَاسْأَلُوا أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ ﴾

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A word on the error of the followers in racing the imam in saying "Ameen," and an explanation of the hadith: (When the imam says "Ameen," then say "Ameen")

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The Shaykh : Before questions come to us, I want to remind you of a common and repeated error in every loud prayer. This error is that the imam in the loud prayer barely says:
And not those who go astray. وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
before the followers rush to say:
Ameen آمين
. This is an error; I mean this rushing and haste in saying "Ameen" is an error because it contradicts the saying of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him):
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin إذا أمَّنَ الإمام فأمِّنوا
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
, and in another narration:
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin, for if anyone’s utterance of Amin synchronnises with that of the angles, he will be forgiven his past sins. إذا قال الإمام : آمين ؛ فأمِّنوا ؛ فإنه مَن وافق تأمينُه تأمينَ الملائكة غُفِرَ له ما تقدَّم من ذنبه
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
. His saying (peace be upon him):
When he says “Ameen,” you say “Ameen.” إذا أمَّنَ فأمِّنوا
is like
When he says Allahu Akbar, say Allahu Akbar إذا كبَّر فكبِّروا
When the imam says Ameen إذا أمَّنَ الإمام
follow his "Ameen" with your "Ameen." Similarly, in another hadith in "Sahih Muslim":
and when he says: 'Sami' Allahu liman hamidah (Allah hears the one who praises Him)' then say: 'Rabbana wa lakal-hamd (Our Lord, and to You be the praise).' وإذا قال : سمع الله لِمَن حمده ؛ فقولوا : ربنا ولك الحمد
Sunan an-Nasa'i 1061Sahih (Darussalam)
.
Therefore, it is obligatory for the worshippers, when the imam says:
not of those who have evoked [Your] anger or of those who are astray. غَيْرِ الْمَغْضُوبِ عَلَيْهِمْ وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
[Al-Fatihah 1:7]
, to be patient. If the imam says
Ameen آمين
aloud, as is the Sunnah, the matter is clear for them in determining when to say "Ameen." That is when the imam finishes saying:
Ameen آمين
; at that time, the followers begin saying:
Ameen آمين
.
As for when the imam does not say
Ameen آمين
aloud, as is the case with many imams of the Hanafi school and others; at that time, the follower must use independent legal reasoning and estimation. When he hears the imam say:
And not those who go astray. وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
, he estimates a time sufficient for the imam to say in his heart:
Ameen آمين
, and then he says:
Ameen آمين
.
In a simple, easy way, when the imam says:
And not those who go astray. وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
, you, the follower, take a breath. By the amount of time you take a breath, he will have pronounced
Ameen آمين
; so you then say:
Ameen آمين
.
And upon you be peace and Allah's mercy and blessings.
This hadith is actually from.
Welcome.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : Hello, how are you?

The questioner : May Allah keep you safe.

The Shaykh : This hadith explains the virtue of this easy, simple Sunnah. Its virtue is that the one who says it, as the Messenger (peace be upon him) commanded, will have all his sins forgiven by Allah:
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin, for if anyone’s utterance of Amin synchronnises with that of the angles, he will be forgiven his past sins. إذا أمَّنَ الإمام فأمِّنوا ؛ فإنه مَن وافق تأمينُه تأمينَ الملائكة غُفِرَت له ذنوبه
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
. But the forgiveness of these sins through this Sunnah is not achieved by racing the imam; because in that case, the one saying "Ameen" has preceded the imam and reversed the saying of the Messenger (peace be upon him):
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin إذا أمَّنَ الإمام فأمِّنوا
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
. He has done so if the imam did not say "Ameen" or before the imam said "Ameen," you said "Ameen." The hadith says after the imam says "Ameen," then you say "Ameen."
Therefore, we must pay attention to this hadith for two reasons. First: because it simplifies the method of not racing the imam in saying "Ameen"; it simplifies and explains. Second: it realizes the saying of the Messenger (peace be upon him):
The Imam is to be followed إنما جُعِل الإمام لِيُؤتمَّ به
Sahih al-Bukhari 1236
. Following the imam is not done by racing him, but by following him.
So I hope you will note this and remember it; first for yourselves, and second for others. Because until now, I do not enter a mosque and pray in congregation, whether as imam or follower, without finding that all the people make this common error. The imam barely finishes saying:
And not those who go astray. وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
before the mosque is filled with
Ameen آمين
.

The questioner : They invent supplications, professor.

Another questioner : ... in supplications that are not established, he says "Ameen" to his supplication while he is not ... with the imam.

The Shaykh : Yes, here there is a difference between a person who responds to a supplication from his own side, which is not permissible of course, because it is an invention and innovation in religion, and contradicting the text and reversing it. We, as a group that follows the Sunnah, pay attention that this supplication has no basis. But more importantly, we must pay attention to his saying (peace be upon him):
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin إذا أمَّنَ الإمام فأمِّنوا
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
. When we hear the imam say:
And not those who go astray. وَلَا الضَّالِّينَ
, we are patient until we hear the imam's "Ameen" or we estimate if he does not say "Ameen" aloud; we estimate that the imam has now finished saying:
Ameen آمين
; so we say:
Ameen آمين
. Why? First: to implement this command
When he says “Ameen,” you say “Ameen.” إذا أمَّنَ فأمِّنوا
. Second: to deserve this forgiveness, and forgiveness is the most valuable thing a Muslim obtains in this worldly life. Allah (Mighty and Majestic) says:
And I did not create the jinn and mankind except to worship Me. وَمَا خَلَقْتُ الْجِنَّ وَالْإِنْسَ إِلَّا لِيَعْبُدُونِ
[Adh-Dhariyat 51:56]
. If we worship Allah, we deserve His forgiveness and pleasure. And this deserving is only achieved by following the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), especially in what He commanded us.
This is what I wanted to point out, and I repeat the request that you note this in all your prayers when the prayer is loud; so that you do not sin by contradicting the command of the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) in his saying:
When the Imam says Amin, say Amin إذا أمَّنَ الإمام فأمِّنوا
Sunan Abi Dawud 936Sahih (Al-Albani)
first, and so that you do not lose this virtue, which is the forgiveness of sins due to your coincidence with the saying of the angels. What does the coincidence of the Muslim with the angels mean? It means that the angels, as Allah (Mighty and Majestic) described them in His saying:
they do not disobey Allah in what He commands them but do what they are commanded. لَا يَعْصُونَ اللَّهَ مَا أَمَرَهُمْ وَيَفْعَلُونَ مَا يُؤْمَرُونَ
[At-Tahrim 66:6]
. If we were commanded not to race the imam; what do you think of the noble angels; do they race the imam or follow him? No doubt they follow him. And the meaning of this following is that the angels do not say:
Ameen آمين
except after the imam says:
Ameen آمين
. If we also say:
Ameen آمين
, our "Ameen" coincides with the "Ameen" of the angels, and in this coincidence lies the deserving of the forgiveness of Allah (Blessed and Exalted is He). This is a reminder, and the reminder benefits the believers.
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The Shaykh: Go ahead.
Source www.al-albany.com

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