Is it established that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) saw Musa (peace be upon him) praying in his grave, and is it established that the believer prays in his grave?
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The Shaykh : Is it established that the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) saw Musa (peace be upon him) praying in his grave? And is it established that the believer prays in his grave? It is established that he (peace be upon him) said and this is a hadith in Sahih Muslim. And it is established that there is a text more general than this, which is his saying (peace be upon him) This is a general text that includes the prophets. As for the believer
The questioner : and this hadith ... .
The Shaykh : This is in Musnad Abu Ya'la. As for the second part of the question, that the believer prays in his grave, we do not have a text that explicitly states that the Muslim actually prays in his grave. However, it is possible, because if it is established that the prophets pray in their graves, there is no barrier to the believers, especially those who were in their lifetime in this world facing Allah (Mighty and Majestic) with their hearts, praying in their graves. And with this, there is a sound hadith that when the believer is placed in his grave and the angels come to test him, he says to them, "Let me pray," and they say to him, "Prayer is before you." This indicates the possibility of the believer's prayer while he is in his grave. But I, out of caution, have not found a hadith in which the Messenger explicitly states that he saw, whether by way of revelation or that Allah told him, that the believer prays in his grave, as he did regarding the prophets. But this last hadith I mentioned indicates the possibility of that. "Prayer is before you" means you can ... .
The questioner : ... Oh teacher, the hadithRiyad as-Salihin 1383
The Shaykh : No, his work that he is rewarded for is cut off, ... his ending is determined. As for work in the sense of worship, which does not result in changing the future life of this worshipper, this exists in the text of the Noble Qur'an.
The questioner : Please go ahead.
The Shaykh :Riyad as-Salihin 1383 Okay, is there no glorification in Paradise? Is there no praise?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No ... they have the evidence,
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : By the text of the Noble Qur'an that the angels praise, that the believers in Paradise praise Allah (Mighty and Majestic) on many occasions, including for example[Az-Zumar 39:74] So we cannot understand "his work is cut off" to mean an absolute severance
The questioner : except what the Messenger specified
The Shaykh : And we came to you with the text, we are not speaking philosophy from our minds, we came to you with the text
The questioner : Please go ahead.
The Shaykh : Prayer is before you
The questioner : Was ... it would be weak
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah, and with all this ... talk
Another questioner: ...
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner: Does he benefit from this prayer?
The Shaykh : What did you say?
Another questioner: Does he benefit from this prayer?
The Shaykh : Like this Paradise, when they glorify the Lord of the Worlds, does it benefit them?
The questioner : ... did the reward of the worshippers come?
The Shaykh : Be patient, oh Shaykh
The questioner : ... the people of Paradise
Another questioner: ... here is the difference ... .
The Shaykh : Yes ... but you think a little about the answer to the question
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : That's it, and this is from the same door, so this person performs a type of gratitude, does it benefit him or not?
The questioner : ... one ... .
The Shaykh : You didn't answer me
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah, the Shaykh is so oppressed, he has to answer question after question after question and so on until half the night, and if he poses one question, all the responsible people think he is satisfied with that answer, why? I am just asking you ... .
The questioner : The world ... that's it
The Shaykh : This is what we said
The questioner : He (Glorified and Exalted is He) when ... the martyrs return to the world ... he said ... .
The Shaykh :Sunan Ibn Majah 2800Hasan (Darussalam)
The questioner : So that means there is no other work ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, what are you repeating my previous words for
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : What are you doing?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Now you answered, there is no contradiction, say this is an act of gratitude, where is the contradiction? Prayer of gratitude, praise of gratitude, glorification of gratitude, as he (peace be upon him) said when they said to him (peace be upon him), "You have stood until your feet swelled," they said, "Allah has forgiven you your past and future sins," he saidJami` at-Tirmidhi 412Sahih (Darussalam) Meaning, does one enter Paradise and trample it with his foot and that's it, he no longer knows his Lord? No, should I not be a grateful servant?
The questioner : There is a topic, three graves, I don't know, I heard the verse in Surat Yasin ... the village, this ... this indicates that he ... meaning he does not feel, what does he say ... .
The Shaykh : He does not feel ... .
The questioner : ... around him, meaning
The Shaykh : by what is around him
The questioner : meaning he is not dead for ... .
The Shaykh : Who took this understanding? Meaning, now you have sentenced him to death completely, this ... the one who died, as if he was a body without a soul, his soul died, whether he was righteous or wicked, whether he was a believer or a disbeliever
The questioner : ... exists
The Shaykh : It exists and he does not feel that the soul is connected to anything, neither to bliss nor to torment
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : So how do you mention the previous verse ... these facts, where did you open for him the energy that if he is from the people of Paradise, he sees his place in Paradise, so he continues to enjoy its spirit, its breeze, and its bliss until the Hour stands? In some hadiths, "My Lord, establish the Hour," when he was comfortable in the place shown to him, "My Lord, establish the Hour," and that wretched, poor disbeliever or open sinner sees his place in the Fire, and the breeze, smoke, and flame of it come to him, and it is said, "This is your place when the Hour stands," and he says, "My Lord, do not establish the Hour," because he knows what his fate is, he sees it. We deny all these things because he said, "It is mentioned ... some of the people that this verse indicates that they were not feeling, they were not feeling the material feeling that we feel, but the barzakh feeling befitting the life of the soul, whether it is a believer or a disbeliever, these are the decisive texts of the Book and the Sunnah regarding this fact
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... what does[Ghafir 40:46] mean, in the barzakh life you say later that you frankly that they did not feel anything, if [Ghafir 40:46] they did not feel anything.
Another questioner: Perhaps they said this when they came out to the gathering place and ... .
The Shaykh : Of course, he, it is so
The questioner : Yes, this saying ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It does not concern us, you, if Allah wills, will die a believer, then pray in any form ... what concerns us ... prayer ... not prayer ... .
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner: ...
The Shaykh : How?
Another questioner: The form of the cut off work ... ?
The Shaykh : The work that results in happiness or suffering, change, changing the ending that was sealed for him, as he (peace be upon him) said So when a person dies, his work is cut off, he died with his good and his evil, this good does not save him, this evil does not harm him at all, he will receive his reward in the grave, everything, then in the gathering place
The questioner : The truth or metaphor
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : The truth or metaphor, meaning
The Shaykh : No, it has nothing to do with the truth and metaphor, the important thing is that the abode of obligation is the world, so when he dies, his work as an obligated person is cut off, so he does not increase in closeness and elevation to Allah if he is a believer by the work of others, nor does he increase in evil by the work of others, his work is cut off except for some, and you know the mentioned exception, the righteous son and the like
The questioner : One of the Shaykhs is saying that Lut (peace be upon him) was ... our master Musa who was ... Sha'rawi, you are sitting and arguing with one of the Salafis, tell him you ... .
The Shaykh : He benefited us[Al-An'am 6:96]
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It does not concern us, we do not say that Allah revived him because they, meaning, are in their graves as said in the previous hadith, they are alive, we do not say they are alive specifically regarding the ascension
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : The understanding is that the prophets are alive, regardless of the reality of this life and that it is not like the life of the world, it is a barzakh life, the important thing is the text, if it comes, submission to it is obligatory, but it is not permissible to build inferences and legal rulings as you are now quoting from Sha'rawi, that Allah benefited us with Musa, meaning Allah benefited us with Musa by the decree of Allah (Mighty and Majestic), so the fifty that were made five need to become five, whether the conversation took place between Musa and the Messenger (peace be upon him) or not. And finally, I say that Sha'rawi's words may be answered by some people who do not have mature knowledge, but they do not answer our previous words. We said that when the dead person dies, his work that increases his closeness to Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is cut off, but his work is not absolutely cut off, the least thing is that he sees his place in Paradise, this is not work, the least thing is that he sees his place in the Fire, may Allah protect us, this is work, let alone prayer, standing, bowing, and prostration, or the story of Musa (peace be upon him) on the night of the Ascension and the Journey, this is of course not denied because it is something established, but it does not mean that this work about which the Messenger said it was cut off has not been cut off. No, this work, which is obligatory work, is cut off without a doubt.
The questioner : Does the disbeliever have a barzakh life as well?
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : Does the disbeliever have a barzakh life in his grave?
The Shaykh : Was
The questioner : So, why is there this specification? The specification for the prophets means that one is in a state of...
The Shaykh : ... but we have agreed
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : We have agreed
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : We were with him today, we were with him this morning...
The Shaykh : As long as they are intending...
I saw Musa (peace be upon him) on the night I was taken up in ascension, standing in his grave, praying
رأيت موسى عليه السلام ليلة أسري بي قائما في قبره يصليIndeed, the prophets are alive and they pray in their graves
إن الأنبياء أحياء يصلون في قبورهمThe questioner : and this hadith ... .
The Shaykh : This is in Musnad Abu Ya'la. As for the second part of the question, that the believer prays in his grave, we do not have a text that explicitly states that the Muslim actually prays in his grave. However, it is possible, because if it is established that the prophets pray in their graves, there is no barrier to the believers, especially those who were in their lifetime in this world facing Allah (Mighty and Majestic) with their hearts, praying in their graves. And with this, there is a sound hadith that when the believer is placed in his grave and the angels come to test him, he says to them, "Let me pray," and they say to him, "Prayer is before you." This indicates the possibility of the believer's prayer while he is in his grave. But I, out of caution, have not found a hadith in which the Messenger explicitly states that he saw, whether by way of revelation or that Allah told him, that the believer prays in his grave, as he did regarding the prophets. But this last hadith I mentioned indicates the possibility of that. "Prayer is before you" means you can ... .
The questioner : ... Oh teacher, the hadith
When a man dies, his deeds come to an end except for three things
إذا مات بن آدم انقطع عمله إلا من ثلاثThe Shaykh : No, his work that he is rewarded for is cut off, ... his ending is determined. As for work in the sense of worship, which does not result in changing the future life of this worshipper, this exists in the text of the Noble Qur'an.
The questioner : Please go ahead.
The Shaykh :
When a man dies, his deeds come to an end
إذا مات بن آدم انقطع عملهThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : No ... they have the evidence,
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : By the text of the Noble Qur'an that the angels praise, that the believers in Paradise praise Allah (Mighty and Majestic) on many occasions, including for example
Praise to Allah, who has fulfilled for us His promise and made us inherit the earth [so] we may settle in Paradise wherever we will. And excellent is the reward of [righteous] workers."
الحمد لله الذي أورثنا الأرض نتبوأ منها حيث نشاء فنعم أجر العاملينThe questioner : except what the Messenger specified
The Shaykh : And we came to you with the text, we are not speaking philosophy from our minds, we came to you with the text
The questioner : Please go ahead.
The Shaykh : Prayer is before you
The questioner : Was ... it would be weak
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah, and with all this ... talk
Another questioner: ...
The Shaykh : Yes?
Another questioner: Does he benefit from this prayer?
The Shaykh : What did you say?
Another questioner: Does he benefit from this prayer?
The Shaykh : Like this Paradise, when they glorify the Lord of the Worlds, does it benefit them?
The questioner : ... did the reward of the worshippers come?
The Shaykh : Be patient, oh Shaykh
The questioner : ... the people of Paradise
Another questioner: ... here is the difference ... .
The Shaykh : Yes ... but you think a little about the answer to the question
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : That's it, and this is from the same door, so this person performs a type of gratitude, does it benefit him or not?
The questioner : ... one ... .
The Shaykh : You didn't answer me
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Glory be to Allah, the Shaykh is so oppressed, he has to answer question after question after question and so on until half the night, and if he poses one question, all the responsible people think he is satisfied with that answer, why? I am just asking you ... .
The questioner : The world ... that's it
The Shaykh : This is what we said
The questioner : He (Glorified and Exalted is He) when ... the martyrs return to the world ... he said ... .
The Shaykh :
I have already decreed that they will not return (to the world after death).
سبق القول مني إنهم إليها لا يرجعونThe questioner : So that means there is no other work ... .
The Shaykh : Yes, what are you repeating my previous words for
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : What are you doing?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Now you answered, there is no contradiction, say this is an act of gratitude, where is the contradiction? Prayer of gratitude, praise of gratitude, glorification of gratitude, as he (peace be upon him) said when they said to him (peace be upon him), "You have stood until your feet swelled," they said, "Allah has forgiven you your past and future sins," he said
Shouldn't I be a grateful worshipper?
أفلا أكون عبدا شكوراThe questioner : There is a topic, three graves, I don't know, I heard the verse in Surat Yasin ... the village, this ... this indicates that he ... meaning he does not feel, what does he say ... .
The Shaykh : He does not feel ... .
The questioner : ... around him, meaning
The Shaykh : by what is around him
The questioner : meaning he is not dead for ... .
The Shaykh : Who took this understanding? Meaning, now you have sentenced him to death completely, this ... the one who died, as if he was a body without a soul, his soul died, whether he was righteous or wicked, whether he was a believer or a disbeliever
The questioner : ... exists
The Shaykh : It exists and he does not feel that the soul is connected to anything, neither to bliss nor to torment
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : So how do you mention the previous verse ... these facts, where did you open for him the energy that if he is from the people of Paradise, he sees his place in Paradise, so he continues to enjoy its spirit, its breeze, and its bliss until the Hour stands? In some hadiths, "My Lord, establish the Hour," when he was comfortable in the place shown to him, "My Lord, establish the Hour," and that wretched, poor disbeliever or open sinner sees his place in the Fire, and the breeze, smoke, and flame of it come to him, and it is said, "This is your place when the Hour stands," and he says, "My Lord, do not establish the Hour," because he knows what his fate is, he sees it. We deny all these things because he said, "It is mentioned ... some of the people that this verse indicates that they were not feeling, they were not feeling the material feeling that we feel, but the barzakh feeling befitting the life of the soul, whether it is a believer or a disbeliever, these are the decisive texts of the Book and the Sunnah regarding this fact
The Fire is presented to them in the morning and in the evening
النار يعرضون غدوا وعشياThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : ... what does
The Fire, they are exposed to it morning and evening.
النار يعرضون عليها غدوا وعشياThe Fire, they are exposed to it morning and evening.
النار يعرضون عليها غدوا وعشياAnother questioner: Perhaps they said this when they came out to the gathering place and ... .
The Shaykh : Of course, he, it is so
The questioner : Yes, this saying ... .
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It does not concern us, you, if Allah wills, will die a believer, then pray in any form ... what concerns us ... prayer ... not prayer ... .
The questioner : ... .
Another questioner: ...
The Shaykh : How?
Another questioner: The form of the cut off work ... ?
The Shaykh : The work that results in happiness or suffering, change, changing the ending that was sealed for him, as he (peace be upon him) said
Deeds are only by their endings
إنما الأعمال بالخواتيمThe questioner : The truth or metaphor
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : The truth or metaphor, meaning
The Shaykh : No, it has nothing to do with the truth and metaphor, the important thing is that the abode of obligation is the world, so when he dies, his work as an obligated person is cut off, so he does not increase in closeness and elevation to Allah if he is a believer by the work of others, nor does he increase in evil by the work of others, his work is cut off except for some, and you know the mentioned exception, the righteous son and the like
The questioner : One of the Shaykhs is saying that Lut (peace be upon him) was ... our master Musa who was ... Sha'rawi, you are sitting and arguing with one of the Salafis, tell him you ... .
The Shaykh : He benefited us
That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.
ذلك تقدير العزيز العليمThe questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It does not concern us, we do not say that Allah revived him because they, meaning, are in their graves as said in the previous hadith, they are alive, we do not say they are alive specifically regarding the ascension
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : The understanding is that the prophets are alive, regardless of the reality of this life and that it is not like the life of the world, it is a barzakh life, the important thing is the text, if it comes, submission to it is obligatory, but it is not permissible to build inferences and legal rulings as you are now quoting from Sha'rawi, that Allah benefited us with Musa, meaning Allah benefited us with Musa by the decree of Allah (Mighty and Majestic), so the fifty that were made five need to become five, whether the conversation took place between Musa and the Messenger (peace be upon him) or not. And finally, I say that Sha'rawi's words may be answered by some people who do not have mature knowledge, but they do not answer our previous words. We said that when the dead person dies, his work that increases his closeness to Allah (Mighty and Majestic) is cut off, but his work is not absolutely cut off, the least thing is that he sees his place in Paradise, this is not work, the least thing is that he sees his place in the Fire, may Allah protect us, this is work, let alone prayer, standing, bowing, and prostration, or the story of Musa (peace be upon him) on the night of the Ascension and the Journey, this is of course not denied because it is something established, but it does not mean that this work about which the Messenger said it was cut off has not been cut off. No, this work, which is obligatory work, is cut off without a doubt.
The questioner : Does the disbeliever have a barzakh life as well?
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : Does the disbeliever have a barzakh life in his grave?
The Shaykh : Was
The questioner : So, why is there this specification? The specification for the prophets means that one is in a state of...
The Shaykh : ... but we have agreed
The questioner : Yes
The Shaykh : We have agreed
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : We were with him today, we were with him this morning...
The Shaykh : As long as they are intending...
