A discussion regarding the author of the book "The Hadith of the Two Weighty Matters and Its Jurisprudence" and a discussion regarding the hadith (that the People of the House and the Qur'an will not separate until they return to the Pond).
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The questioner : So, the author of the book on the Hadith of the Two Weighty Matters and its jurisprudence, Dr. 'Ali Ahmad al-Salus, referred to your words in *Mishkat al-Mashabih*. You said regarding the two hadiths you mentioned in *Mishkat* that this one is weak and the second one is weak. There is a quotation of your exact words in *Mishkat*; perhaps we can quote it for you here. It says: "It was mentioned in the narration numbered such-and-such, then the hadith was mentioned. It said: The narrators of al-Tirmidhi, and the other narration, its text is such-and-such. It says: These are the two narrations in the tracing. So it is as follows: Then it mentioned, 'I say, i.e., Al-Albani, and its chain is weak, and the second narration.' And it said: 'A good hadith.' I say: Its chain is weak, but it is a corroborating narration for the one before it. This is what I read and quoted verbatim. And the weak hadith that corroborates a weak hadith does not raise it to the rank of authentic; rather, it may only increase its weakness." What is your opinion of this statement? Then, if the hadith is authentic, what is its degree of authenticity? Then, as for me, this hadith is problematic because Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3788Sahih (Darussalam), and they are the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) lineage or his People of the House. And we find now among the People of the House, who are my family now, and my relatives, meaning I am from the household as they say we are from the People of the House, such that they are far from the Sunnah, and among them are many superstitions and religious innovations, except for whom Allah has mercy. Truly, I am in great difficulty now?
The Shaykh : May Allah remove it.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : May Allah remove it.
The questioner : If Allah wills. And they always argue with this hadith: "We are the People of the House, and we will not separate from the Book of Allah until the Day of Resurrection, and until we return to the Pond, and the Messenger recommended us, and so on and so forth." So first, we want to discuss the authenticity of the hadith, and then its explanation. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : I traced this hadith in detail in some of the volumes of *Sahih*. Did you not come across it?
The questioner : In the book *Sahih al-Jami'*, you referred to... *Mishkat al-Mashabih*. You did not refer to *Sahih*, and Allah knows best. I came across *al-Silsilah al-Sahihah*.
The Shaykh : *Sahih al-Jami'* was compiled years ago, and now the third and fourth volumes of *Sahih* have been printed. So search for the hadith there and you will find the discussion in it simplified. But we will answer your question. This man, first, is not from the people of hadith or the scholars of hadith, and the statement you recited to you indicates that, because he says: "The Shaykh says its chain is weak, and this one's chain is weak, but one of them corroborates the other." He criticizes this statement. Well, what is his evidence in the terminology of hadith, while acknowledging the terminology's statement that a weak hadith strengthens another if its weakness is not severe? And this condition is met here; its weakness is not severe in the other. From that, I saw that al-Tirmidhi graded one of them as good. If we do not agree with him on grading it good in itself, at least we agree with him on grading it good due to its corroborating narration. In addition, the hadith has other routes, which I traced in the source mentioned above. As for what is problematic for you regarding its meaning, what is it? What is the reason for the problem?
The questioner : The reason for the problem...
The Shaykh : We perform the prayer, yes, please proceed, in the name of Allah.
The second call to prayer.
they shall not split until they meet at the Hawd
لا يتفرقا حتى يردا علي الحوضThe Shaykh : May Allah remove it.
The questioner : Ah.
The Shaykh : May Allah remove it.
The questioner : If Allah wills. And they always argue with this hadith: "We are the People of the House, and we will not separate from the Book of Allah until the Day of Resurrection, and until we return to the Pond, and the Messenger recommended us, and so on and so forth." So first, we want to discuss the authenticity of the hadith, and then its explanation. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : I traced this hadith in detail in some of the volumes of *Sahih*. Did you not come across it?
The questioner : In the book *Sahih al-Jami'*, you referred to... *Mishkat al-Mashabih*. You did not refer to *Sahih*, and Allah knows best. I came across *al-Silsilah al-Sahihah*.
The Shaykh : *Sahih al-Jami'* was compiled years ago, and now the third and fourth volumes of *Sahih* have been printed. So search for the hadith there and you will find the discussion in it simplified. But we will answer your question. This man, first, is not from the people of hadith or the scholars of hadith, and the statement you recited to you indicates that, because he says: "The Shaykh says its chain is weak, and this one's chain is weak, but one of them corroborates the other." He criticizes this statement. Well, what is his evidence in the terminology of hadith, while acknowledging the terminology's statement that a weak hadith strengthens another if its weakness is not severe? And this condition is met here; its weakness is not severe in the other. From that, I saw that al-Tirmidhi graded one of them as good. If we do not agree with him on grading it good in itself, at least we agree with him on grading it good due to its corroborating narration. In addition, the hadith has other routes, which I traced in the source mentioned above. As for what is problematic for you regarding its meaning, what is it? What is the reason for the problem?
The questioner : The reason for the problem...
The Shaykh : We perform the prayer, yes, please proceed, in the name of Allah.
The second call to prayer.