What is the ruling on departing from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night for women and the weak, and is there an authentic text that permits them to throw the pebbles before the dawn?

The Shaykh : ... and the departure is an obligatory matter for the men to be after the Fajr prayer, and for them to throw the pebbles at the large pillar after the sun rises, due to the authenticity of the hadith of Ibn Abbas, who was with the weak whom the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) permitted to depart from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night, unlike the general public. And yet, he said to Ibn Abbas and those who were with him from the weak: . As for the women, as for the old and weak, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) permitted them to depart from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night, so that they might avoid and escape the crowd of people, and not be harmed by such a crowd. However, there is not—and this is a matter I see it obligatory upon me to point out—that there is no authentic hadith traced to the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) permitting the weak and the women, whom he (peace and blessings be upon him) allowed to depart from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night, to throw the pebbles before the sun rises. There is no explicit authentic hadith that he (peace and blessings be upon him) permitted them to throw the pebbles before the sun rises; rather, the hadith of Ibn Abbas is explicit to the contrary: .
Yes; some incidents have occurred where some individuals threw the pebbles before the sun rose, throwing them at night, and then they returned to the Ka'bah, the House of Allah. But this may have been, first, due to an excuse, or second, without an excuse but based on a specific understanding. And we do not find in the Sunnah that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) was informed of such a reality and approved it. If any of that were the case, it would be obligatory to exclude such a reality from the general rule: . This is what I saw as appropriate to point out now, and then we will listen to any questions you may have.

The questioner : The departure from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night; the reports that came regarding it being at the end of the night, and that it is when the moon sets in the pre-dawn hours, but the word ...

The Shaykh : Excuse me... it is not at the end of the night, but after the middle of the night.

The questioner : Is there a Sunnah by explicit text after the middle of the night?

The Shaykh : Yes; what is it? I think Umm Salama used to say to her servant, "Look, has the moon set?" She would say, "No." Until she said, "Yes," and then she departed, stating that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had permitted the women to depart from Muzdalifah after the middle of the night. And yet, let us listen to you: what is the outcome of the disagreement between the two phrases; between the women having departed after the middle of the night, or having departed at the end of the night? What is the outcome of the disagreement, if there is one?

The questioner : The outcome of the disagreement, O honorable...The Shaykh : The moon does not set until after two-thirds of the night have passed, on the night of the tenth.

The Shaykh : In any case, after the middle of the night, not at the end of the night. So the disagreement is verbal, but what is the outcome?

The questioner : If we say at the end of the night, the middle of the night is not part of the end of the night.

The Shaykh : After the middle of the night, I am saying, not the middle of the night.

The questioner : Yes; may Allah reward you with good.

The Shaykh : Okay, so with that, let us continue. What if we departed in the second third of the night? What is beyond that regarding what we mentioned earlier, and is it only your observation on this word, only? Or is there something else?

The questioner : I understood, and my understanding was wrong. I understood it as the middle of the night.

The Shaykh : After the middle of the night.

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.

The Shaykh : And you, yes. Please, go ahead.