If you say, O Shaykh, that it is obligatory to emigrate from the occupied territories, they will remain in the hands of the disbelievers, just as happened to the early Muslims in Andalus, and their greed will increase.
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The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : If you please, regarding this specific topic, if Muslims emigrate from their homeland in this manner, the lands of Allah are vast... But if we let the rope go in this way, we see the ruling regarding the Muslims who emigrated from Andalus, and emigrated from Russia, and emigrated from many Islamic lands, and they scattered across the lands. So the result is that now... our brothers the Palestinians in the occupied territories, and our Muslim brothers in Afghanistan, emigrated from their lands and emigrated to Islamic lands. We notice that we will ultimately leave the lands to the colonizer, and the colonizer will be more and more greedy toward us. This is one point. The second point...
The Shaykh : No. Stick to the first point, for the other may fall automatically, as they say.
First, I want to draw your attention to the fact that you are not criticizing me. I wish your words were criticizing me, but in reality, you are criticizing the Shari'ah ruling. And it is true that you affirmed by saying, "Yes,[An-Nisa 4:97]" so you are criticizing, may Allah reward you, this verse, unless you have a specific understanding of this verse. In that case, we will discuss our understandings of this verse. Either my understanding is the stronger position, in which case your question is invalid, or your understanding of the verse is correct...
The questioner : If you please, a simple interjection only regarding this verse, the circumstances and context of this verse.
The Shaykh : I have memorized your question, and perhaps some of the brothers here who memorize the Qur'an more than I do will bring it.
So the point is, and I do not think we differ on the meaning of the verse, is that not so? Meaning, you do not have an opinion that contradicts our opinion and our evidence, if that is the case?
Now, let us assume that the matter is as it appears to you, and that it is the stronger position for you, which is that Muslims should not emigrate from the land that the disbelievers have taken control of. You gave the example of Andalus, that the Muslims left it. What do you imagine if the Muslims had remained in Andalus? Because it is easy, as we know in academic discussions, for a critic to criticize a certain opinion, but he does not think about the consequence of his own opinion, which is much worse than the opinion he criticized. What does a person of reason imagine if the Muslims had remained in Andalus, and they were humiliated, and they were Christianized, and so on? What would be the outcome of these Muslims, in your opinion and imagination? Do you imagine that they could unite and gather in one place, while being surrounded from all sides, such that they could revolt against that new controller and the disbeliever ruler, and it would be easier for them at that time to expel the enemy from their land? Do you imagine this? Or does historical reality confirm to you the opposite of what you imagine?
Another questioner: The Inquisition courts in the history of Andalus.
The Shaykh : Yes, do you not know from Islamic history that many of the Muslims who remained, as it appears from your question, did not emigrate, and the outcome of their affair was that they were Christianized, they and their children, and even as I read in some newspapers in the modern era, that some...
The questioner : If you please, regarding this specific topic, if Muslims emigrate from their homeland in this manner, the lands of Allah are vast... But if we let the rope go in this way, we see the ruling regarding the Muslims who emigrated from Andalus, and emigrated from Russia, and emigrated from many Islamic lands, and they scattered across the lands. So the result is that now... our brothers the Palestinians in the occupied territories, and our Muslim brothers in Afghanistan, emigrated from their lands and emigrated to Islamic lands. We notice that we will ultimately leave the lands to the colonizer, and the colonizer will be more and more greedy toward us. This is one point. The second point...
The Shaykh : No. Stick to the first point, for the other may fall automatically, as they say.
First, I want to draw your attention to the fact that you are not criticizing me. I wish your words were criticizing me, but in reality, you are criticizing the Shari'ah ruling. And it is true that you affirmed by saying, "Yes,
Was not the earth of Allah spacious [enough] for you to emigrate therein?
ألم تكن أرض الله واسعة فتهاجروا فيهاThe questioner : If you please, a simple interjection only regarding this verse, the circumstances and context of this verse.
The Shaykh : I have memorized your question, and perhaps some of the brothers here who memorize the Qur'an more than I do will bring it.
So the point is, and I do not think we differ on the meaning of the verse, is that not so? Meaning, you do not have an opinion that contradicts our opinion and our evidence, if that is the case?
Now, let us assume that the matter is as it appears to you, and that it is the stronger position for you, which is that Muslims should not emigrate from the land that the disbelievers have taken control of. You gave the example of Andalus, that the Muslims left it. What do you imagine if the Muslims had remained in Andalus? Because it is easy, as we know in academic discussions, for a critic to criticize a certain opinion, but he does not think about the consequence of his own opinion, which is much worse than the opinion he criticized. What does a person of reason imagine if the Muslims had remained in Andalus, and they were humiliated, and they were Christianized, and so on? What would be the outcome of these Muslims, in your opinion and imagination? Do you imagine that they could unite and gather in one place, while being surrounded from all sides, such that they could revolt against that new controller and the disbeliever ruler, and it would be easier for them at that time to expel the enemy from their land? Do you imagine this? Or does historical reality confirm to you the opposite of what you imagine?
Another questioner: The Inquisition courts in the history of Andalus.
The Shaykh : Yes, do you not know from Islamic history that many of the Muslims who remained, as it appears from your question, did not emigrate, and the outcome of their affair was that they were Christianized, they and their children, and even as I read in some newspapers in the modern era, that some...