Is it permissible for me to place my money in trust with a Jew?
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The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Returning to the issue of placing money in an interest-based bank
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
The questioner : I mean a Jew. We have a Jewish man here, a Jewish merchant. I have money that I placed with him. I placed my money with him. What is the ruling on it?
The Shaykh : What did he put?
The questioner : I placed my money with a Jew
Abu Malik: Placed money with a Jewish merchant
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: And he is trustworthy
The Shaykh : is it
Abu Malik: And this, of course, must be a condition, that placing his money with him is in trust
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: Or for trade
The questioner : Just as you placed your money with me, I said, "At the time I want it, bring me my money."
The Shaykh : The professor here said he placed it in trust or for him to trade with it
The questioner : I said, "This is my money."
The Shaykh : Excuse me, excuse me, it is one of two things
The questioner : No, it is not like that. Like this... This is my money. Place it with you. At the time I want it, I take it from you.
The Shaykh : And you know whether he sets it aside and does not deal with it in interest? Do you know or do you not know? It is one of two matters.
The questioner : One of two matters, perhaps...
The Shaykh : Do you know? Tell me, do you know or do you not know?
The questioner : I know that this Jew, by the nature of Jews, they deal in interest
The Shaykh : He did not answer - laughterThe Shaykh -
Abu Malik: O our Shaykh, by Allah, he answered, he answered
The Shaykh : He answered?
Abu Malik: Yes, by Allah
The Shaykh : How?
Abu Malik: Because he said, "I know from the nature of Jews that they deal in interest"
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Good. If he will deal with your money in interest
The questioner : I said, "Possibility, a possibility exists"
The Shaykh : How did he spoil this for us
Abu Malik: Yes, by Allah, Shaykh
The Shaykh : He said, "Possibility." No, I want to take from him an answer in my way: does he know or does he not know?
Abu Malik: If...
The Shaykh : is it
The questioner : I do not know, I do not know. He may deal with it and he may not. The possibility exists
The Shaykh: May Allah bless you.
The questioner: Yes
The Shaykh : What are you called, Abu what?
The questioner : Ah, Abu al-Fadl
The Shaykh : Abu al-Fadl
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Welcome. So, Abu al-Fadl, a person judges by the apparent
The questioner: Okay
The Shaykh : And is not obligated to uncover the hearts of people. This Jew whom you assume you are placing your money with, do you know that he deals with this money or does he not deal with it?
The questioner : With my money?
The Shaykh : Ah, with this money. I say, this money that you deposit with him, do you know that he keeps it aside and does not deal with it at all, or do you know the opposite, that he deals with it?
The questioner : I say the possibility exists. Perhaps, I do not know that he deals with it
Another questioner : That is all.
The questioner : One hundred percent
The Shaykh : Okay, no problem, no problem, no problem. What is the stronger possibility in your view?
The questioner : He may deal with it
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, my brother. Leave me alone with...
The questioner : Because he is an interest-dealing Jew
The Shaykh : Leave me alone, Shaykh Abu al-Fadl, with the word "perhaps." We understood it
The questioner : is it
The Shaykh : I said, "It is possible"
The questioner : It is possible
The Shaykh : Now the question
The questioner : is it
The Shaykh : The question is: what is the predominant in this possibility, that he deals with it or does not deal with it?
The questioner : That he deals with it
The Shaykh : Ah, so it is not said "he may deal with it," but rather it is predominant in your opinion that he deals with it
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we going?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, the question, and perhaps the last one: does he deal with it in the lawful or in the unlawful?
The questioner : Mixed
The Shaykh : There is no benefit. Okay, mixed
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Mixed
The questioner : Mixed, yes
The Shaykh : What is the predominant opinion?
The questioner : is it
The Shaykh : Does the predominant opinion hold that he uses it in the unlawful or in the lawful?
The questioner : I cannot prefer one side over the other
The Shaykh : What is this good opinion of this wicked Jew? - laughterThe Shaykh : (may Allah have mercy on him) -
The questioner : Especially... it seems to me that he deals in interest
Abu Malik: Because this is a Yemeni Jew
The Shaykh : There is no power nor strength except in Allah. Please, Allah is the Helper
Abu Malik: By Allah, the truth is that may Allah reward him with good, our Shaykh, that I am speaking in his presence, and this
The Shaykh : Excuse me.
Abu Malik: I always say it is not proper etiquette
The Shaykh : Excuse me.
Abu Malik: Yes, by Allah, but it means an honor from our Shaykh, or an honor from him, that he gives us a share of the conversation. We hope that the meeting is repeated, whether in Oman or in Sana'a or in Aden. Are you from the people of Aden or from the people of Sana'a?
The questioner : ... .
Abu Malik: Yes.
The questioner : ... Our Shaykh... the truth is we desire a visitThe Shaykh
Abu Malik: This is the habit, our Shaykh, our Shaykh. I mean, if he moves from Oman, you cannot do anything to us, my dear brother, because he is going to come back behindThe Shaykh : A large number. And what, what do you want to do in this situation? Yes, may Allah bless you
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you all safe
Abu Malik: This is for our Shaykh. Once again, I say, may Allah reward you with good and do you good, and praise be to Allah who made us brothers loving each other without kinship or prior acquaintance, and this is a great blessing, and it is the greatest of blessings.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
Abu Malik: And I hope, on behalf of our Shaykh as well, that you convey our greetings to our brother and our belovedThe Shaykh : Muqbil ibn Hadi, from whom we knew what we knew of his knowledge and his piety, and the knowledge he spread among the people, and praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
The Shaykh : May Allah give you health
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : ... all of you, and may He give you health. In the safety of Allah, and peace be upon you
Abu Layla : May Allah assist you, O Shaykh
The Shaykh : And Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You. I bear witness that there is no deity but You. I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
The questioner : Returning to the issue of placing money in an interest-based bank
The Shaykh : Please go ahead.
The questioner : I mean a Jew. We have a Jewish man here, a Jewish merchant. I have money that I placed with him. I placed my money with him. What is the ruling on it?
The Shaykh : What did he put?
The questioner : I placed my money with a Jew
Abu Malik: Placed money with a Jewish merchant
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: And he is trustworthy
The Shaykh : is it
Abu Malik: And this, of course, must be a condition, that placing his money with him is in trust
The Shaykh : Yes.
Abu Malik: Or for trade
The questioner : Just as you placed your money with me, I said, "At the time I want it, bring me my money."
The Shaykh : The professor here said he placed it in trust or for him to trade with it
The questioner : I said, "This is my money."
The Shaykh : Excuse me, excuse me, it is one of two things
The questioner : No, it is not like that. Like this... This is my money. Place it with you. At the time I want it, I take it from you.
The Shaykh : And you know whether he sets it aside and does not deal with it in interest? Do you know or do you not know? It is one of two matters.
The questioner : One of two matters, perhaps...
The Shaykh : Do you know? Tell me, do you know or do you not know?
The questioner : I know that this Jew, by the nature of Jews, they deal in interest
The Shaykh : He did not answer - laughterThe Shaykh -
Abu Malik: O our Shaykh, by Allah, he answered, he answered
The Shaykh : He answered?
Abu Malik: Yes, by Allah
The Shaykh : How?
Abu Malik: Because he said, "I know from the nature of Jews that they deal in interest"
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Good. If he will deal with your money in interest
The questioner : I said, "Possibility, a possibility exists"
The Shaykh : How did he spoil this for us
Abu Malik: Yes, by Allah, Shaykh
The Shaykh : He said, "Possibility." No, I want to take from him an answer in my way: does he know or does he not know?
Abu Malik: If...
The Shaykh : is it
The questioner : I do not know, I do not know. He may deal with it and he may not. The possibility exists
The Shaykh: May Allah bless you.
The questioner: Yes
The Shaykh : What are you called, Abu what?
The questioner : Ah, Abu al-Fadl
The Shaykh : Abu al-Fadl
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Welcome. So, Abu al-Fadl, a person judges by the apparent
The questioner: Okay
The Shaykh : And is not obligated to uncover the hearts of people. This Jew whom you assume you are placing your money with, do you know that he deals with this money or does he not deal with it?
The questioner : With my money?
The Shaykh : Ah, with this money. I say, this money that you deposit with him, do you know that he keeps it aside and does not deal with it at all, or do you know the opposite, that he deals with it?
The questioner : I say the possibility exists. Perhaps, I do not know that he deals with it
Another questioner : That is all.
The questioner : One hundred percent
The Shaykh : Okay, no problem, no problem, no problem. What is the stronger possibility in your view?
The questioner : He may deal with it
The Shaykh : May Allah guide you, my brother. Leave me alone with...
The questioner : Because he is an interest-dealing Jew
The Shaykh : Leave me alone, Shaykh Abu al-Fadl, with the word "perhaps." We understood it
The questioner : is it
The Shaykh : I said, "It is possible"
The questioner : It is possible
The Shaykh : Now the question
The questioner : is it
The Shaykh : The question is: what is the predominant in this possibility, that he deals with it or does not deal with it?
The questioner : That he deals with it
The Shaykh : Ah, so it is not said "he may deal with it," but rather it is predominant in your opinion that he deals with it
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Are we going?
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, the question, and perhaps the last one: does he deal with it in the lawful or in the unlawful?
The questioner : Mixed
The Shaykh : There is no benefit. Okay, mixed
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : Mixed
The questioner : Mixed, yes
The Shaykh : What is the predominant opinion?
The questioner : is it
The Shaykh : Does the predominant opinion hold that he uses it in the unlawful or in the lawful?
The questioner : I cannot prefer one side over the other
The Shaykh : What is this good opinion of this wicked Jew? - laughterThe Shaykh : (may Allah have mercy on him) -
The questioner : Especially... it seems to me that he deals in interest
Abu Malik: Because this is a Yemeni Jew
The Shaykh : There is no power nor strength except in Allah. Please, Allah is the Helper
Abu Malik: By Allah, the truth is that may Allah reward him with good, our Shaykh, that I am speaking in his presence, and this
The Shaykh : Excuse me.
Abu Malik: I always say it is not proper etiquette
The Shaykh : Excuse me.
Abu Malik: Yes, by Allah, but it means an honor from our Shaykh, or an honor from him, that he gives us a share of the conversation. We hope that the meeting is repeated, whether in Oman or in Sana'a or in Aden. Are you from the people of Aden or from the people of Sana'a?
The questioner : ... .
Abu Malik: Yes.
The questioner : ... Our Shaykh... the truth is we desire a visitThe Shaykh
Abu Malik: This is the habit, our Shaykh, our Shaykh. I mean, if he moves from Oman, you cannot do anything to us, my dear brother, because he is going to come back behindThe Shaykh : A large number. And what, what do you want to do in this situation? Yes, may Allah bless you
The Shaykh : May Allah keep you all safe
Abu Malik: This is for our Shaykh. Once again, I say, may Allah reward you with good and do you good, and praise be to Allah who made us brothers loving each other without kinship or prior acquaintance, and this is a great blessing, and it is the greatest of blessings.
The Shaykh : Praise be to Allah.
Abu Malik: And I hope, on behalf of our Shaykh as well, that you convey our greetings to our brother and our belovedThe Shaykh : Muqbil ibn Hadi, from whom we knew what we knew of his knowledge and his piety, and the knowledge he spread among the people, and praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds.
The Shaykh : May Allah give you health
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : ... all of you, and may He give you health. In the safety of Allah, and peace be upon you
Abu Layla : May Allah assist you, O Shaykh
The Shaykh : And Glory be to You, O Allah, and praise be to You. I bear witness that there is no deity but You. I seek Your forgiveness and I repent to You.
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