Trimming the beard and al-Tabari’s statement on the matter.
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The Shaykh: Welcome.
The questioner : Welcome.
The Shaykh : Bring it so we can see.
The questioner : The last tape we listened to for you was on the beard, with our brother Abu Ishaq al-Huwayni. We listened to it; it was a wonderful tape, what Allah willed, and we made several copies of it and distributed them to the brothers, including the brothers in Najd, as you know. And Shaykh Ibn Baz (may Allah preserve him) does not mean...
The Shaykh : He considers trimming it absolutely impermissible.
The questioner : Trimming it absolutely impermissible.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : So the tape contained very beautiful formulations, and...The Shaykh : He says, after a long life, I have arrived at these formulations. So one of the brother colleagues or students, truly, said, “O Shaykh, if you would search for us in this issue.” I said, “What will I search for after...?”The Shaykh : May Allah guide him. And this speech, truly, we were sitting as a group, and what will a person speak about after this? He said, “Perhaps we will find reports (athar) in Najd.” But, by Allah, I was not convinced by his speech. However, we went to our brother Sa’d al-Hamid, who had a dinner gathering, and Fath al-Bari was in the gathering. So we opened the tenth volume of the Book of Clothing, and I began to read and search. I found Ibn Umar, Abu Hurayrah, and Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with them), and a group of the Salaf, including Mujahid, Tawus, and others. So I began to say, “I want to gather where Ibn Umar said this statement, or where Abu Hurayrah said it, or where Abu Hurayrah did it, and so on.” And I began to gather. And among the strangest things, I found one who says it is obligatory. Here, al-‘Ayni in Umdat al-Qari, his commentary on Sahih al-Bukhari, says: al-Tabari said, “If I ask, what is the basis for his statement? And you know that leaving the beard to grow is increasing it, and that some people left the hair of their beard in imitation of the apparent meaning of his statement, ‘Let the beards grow,’ so it becomes excessive in length and width, and it becomes a topic of conversation and an example for people. The proof has been established from the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) regarding the specific report, and that leaving the beard to grow is forbidden and trimming it is obligatory, despite the disagreement of the Salaf regarding the extent of that. Alone, meaning it seems the Salaf say trimming is obligatory, but they differ.”
The Shaykh : They differ in the extent.
The questioner : Yes, indeed. So I rejoiced greatly over this, and even we photographed the page...
...that contains it, and we also distributed it to some of the brothers who say...The Shaykh : ...meaning he preceded them in this, and this is what we loved!
Ali Hasan: Our Shaykh (may Allah preserve him), in the introduction of Raf‘ al-Asatir, he cited from Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, and from him and from him Imam Ahmad, meaning Shaykh al-Islam cites from Imam Ahmad his statement: “Do not say a word in which you do not have an Imam.” Therefore, those who say that our Shaykh, meaning, is an outlier and unique, and so on, are in reality either mistaken, ignorant, or envious!
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And so, our Shaykh did not speak on an issue without having been preceded in it. And from the interesting things of our Shaykh, something I perhaps mentioned to you long ago, but as they say, a thing reminds one of another. If His Eminence...The Shaykh : Bakr Abu Zayd, since the first meeting or the first meetings, about six or seven years ago, between us.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The Shaykh : I gifted him a collection of my books, and he gifted me a collection of his books, and I wrote some notes, so he wrote me a letter (may Allah preserve him) thanking me and so on. Among what he said, he said, “I have a project titled ‘The Choices of the Scholar al-Albani and His Verifications.’”
The Shaykh : Strange.
The questioner : He said, “I sat with this book, the methodology of evidence and proof in it, the path he took...The Shaykh : ...in following jurisprudence, and that it is a scientific method, and that he did not speak on an issue where he was unique, but rather he was preceded in all of it. And this is with us, O Shaykh, in the handwriting of Shaykh Bakr!”
The Shaykh: May Allah reward him with good.
The questioner : (May Allah preserve him) and may Allah reward him with good.
The Shaykh: May Allah reward him with good.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The questioner : So this coincides exactly with what you favored and mentioned.
Another questioner : We are very eager to find for the Shaykh, truly, a basis in this issue, even though, by Allah, we are fully convinced by his speech.The Shaykh : Likewise, I gathered the chains of the hadiths in this, but preliminarily, and not...
The Shaykh : Absolutely not.
The questioner : ...finally, because this speech is from only about three weeks ago.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : My work, then I photographed, O...
Ali Hasan: Before the trip, meaning.
The questioner : Yes, before I traveled, I photographed several copies. I said, “I will give the Shaykh a copy, perhaps in the future if you find something...”
The Shaykh : ...you will be thanked.
The questioner: May Allah bless you, and I also gave Shaykh Ali a copy, if Allah wills. May Allah bless you, okay... So we listened to al-Hiliyyah. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : I suggest you put a title here in your handwriting and your composition.
The questioner : The title of the book, meaning.
Ali Hasan: Here, our brother Ali suggested, “Al-Tahaf...The student : ...with what was reported regarding the beard and the mustache.”
The Shaykh : Now.
The questioner : Now, quickly.
The Shaykh : That, if the title is not broader than the subject.
The questioner : Please, by Allah.
The Shaykh : Because you say the mustache.
The questioner : Because the beard, what came in it is the beard and the mustache.
The Shaykh : Yes, but you are researching, not just hadithically... and jurisprudentially.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, regarding the mustache, did you research whether it is...
The questioner : We will research trimming and shaving.
The Shaykh : Shaving the mustache, is there an objection? And this will be a direction in the title.
The questioner : Shaykh, I stole the title from him here. He says, “Al-Hiliyyah with what was reported regarding the mustache and the beard.”
The Shaykh : Ah, heh.
The questioner : I understood, our Shaykh, this is where I got the mustache from.
The Shaykh : Good, if Allah wills.
The questioner : May Allah preserve you, O Professor.
The Shaykh: O Allah, O Generous One.
The questioner : We said, O Shaykh, there is no objection if he writes an introduction or transfers the introduction of the book from the tape.
The Shaykh : I have no objection if you transfer it, but if you burden me to write this, it is difficult!
The questioner : No, even in defense of your school of thought.
The Shaykh : It does not matter to me, I am telling you there is no objection if you transfer it.
The questioner : Because the brothers, glory be to Allah, when I went to Saudi Arabia, all the brothers, how, the Shaykh says this statement, is it possible? So we were defending, but the defense, in reality, was not strong.
The Shaykh : On some points.
The questioner : On Ibn Umar and the action of Ibn Umar, meaning. But when we heard the tape, the tape was, meaning, strong.
Ali Hasan: ...
The questioner : Here, I did not bring it.
Ali Hasan: The tape was not recorded here.
The questioner : Strange.
The Shaykh : It is a phone call.
Ali Hasan: ... was ... present.
The Shaykh : No
Ali Hasan: It was not.
The questioner : No, I will answer for you, absolutely, very, very good, meaning.
The Shaykh : No, I would have liked someone other than you to make this request.
Ali Hasan: O Shaykh, there is no power and no strength except by Allah.
The questioner : Regarding the tapes, I have an opinion, meaning.
The Shaykh : Ha, Abu Ahmad.
The questioner : Abu Ahmad.
The Shaykh : How sleepy.
Another questioner : No, by Allah.
The Shaykh : And how did you miss it?
Another questioner : No, O Shaykh, as is not hidden from you, meaning, whenever I need tapes, they are just recordings.
The Shaykh: How.
The questioner : Any tape, our Shaykh, meaning, I do not have anything with me until I complete my recording!
The Shaykh : No, this is selfishness.
Ali Hasan: This is present, our Shaykh.
The questioner : This is the main points.
The Shaykh : No problem, no problem, the good is in the other, and I put your name.
The questioner : Yes, yes, below.
The Shaykh: O Allah, O Generous One.
The questioner : Welcome.
The Shaykh : Bring it so we can see.
The questioner : The last tape we listened to for you was on the beard, with our brother Abu Ishaq al-Huwayni. We listened to it; it was a wonderful tape, what Allah willed, and we made several copies of it and distributed them to the brothers, including the brothers in Najd, as you know. And Shaykh Ibn Baz (may Allah preserve him) does not mean...
The Shaykh : He considers trimming it absolutely impermissible.
The questioner : Trimming it absolutely impermissible.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : So the tape contained very beautiful formulations, and...The Shaykh : He says, after a long life, I have arrived at these formulations. So one of the brother colleagues or students, truly, said, “O Shaykh, if you would search for us in this issue.” I said, “What will I search for after...?”The Shaykh : May Allah guide him. And this speech, truly, we were sitting as a group, and what will a person speak about after this? He said, “Perhaps we will find reports (athar) in Najd.” But, by Allah, I was not convinced by his speech. However, we went to our brother Sa’d al-Hamid, who had a dinner gathering, and Fath al-Bari was in the gathering. So we opened the tenth volume of the Book of Clothing, and I began to read and search. I found Ibn Umar, Abu Hurayrah, and Umar ibn al-Khattab (may Allah be pleased with them), and a group of the Salaf, including Mujahid, Tawus, and others. So I began to say, “I want to gather where Ibn Umar said this statement, or where Abu Hurayrah said it, or where Abu Hurayrah did it, and so on.” And I began to gather. And among the strangest things, I found one who says it is obligatory. Here, al-‘Ayni in Umdat al-Qari, his commentary on Sahih al-Bukhari, says: al-Tabari said, “If I ask, what is the basis for his statement?
Let the beards grow
أعفو اللحىThe Shaykh : They differ in the extent.
The questioner : Yes, indeed. So I rejoiced greatly over this, and even we photographed the page...
...that contains it, and we also distributed it to some of the brothers who say...The Shaykh : ...meaning he preceded them in this, and this is what we loved!
Ali Hasan: Our Shaykh (may Allah preserve him), in the introduction of Raf‘ al-Asatir, he cited from Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, and from him and from him Imam Ahmad, meaning Shaykh al-Islam cites from Imam Ahmad his statement: “Do not say a word in which you do not have an Imam.” Therefore, those who say that our Shaykh, meaning, is an outlier and unique, and so on, are in reality either mistaken, ignorant, or envious!
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : And so, our Shaykh did not speak on an issue without having been preceded in it. And from the interesting things of our Shaykh, something I perhaps mentioned to you long ago, but as they say, a thing reminds one of another. If His Eminence...The Shaykh : Bakr Abu Zayd, since the first meeting or the first meetings, about six or seven years ago, between us.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The Shaykh : I gifted him a collection of my books, and he gifted me a collection of his books, and I wrote some notes, so he wrote me a letter (may Allah preserve him) thanking me and so on. Among what he said, he said, “I have a project titled ‘The Choices of the Scholar al-Albani and His Verifications.’”
The Shaykh : Strange.
The questioner : He said, “I sat with this book, the methodology of evidence and proof in it, the path he took...The Shaykh : ...in following jurisprudence, and that it is a scientific method, and that he did not speak on an issue where he was unique, but rather he was preceded in all of it. And this is with us, O Shaykh, in the handwriting of Shaykh Bakr!”
The Shaykh: May Allah reward him with good.
The questioner : (May Allah preserve him) and may Allah reward him with good.
The Shaykh: May Allah reward him with good.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : What Allah willed.
The questioner : So this coincides exactly with what you favored and mentioned.
Another questioner : We are very eager to find for the Shaykh, truly, a basis in this issue, even though, by Allah, we are fully convinced by his speech.The Shaykh : Likewise, I gathered the chains of the hadiths in this, but preliminarily, and not...
The Shaykh : Absolutely not.
The questioner : ...finally, because this speech is from only about three weeks ago.
The Shaykh: Yes.
The questioner : My work, then I photographed, O...
Ali Hasan: Before the trip, meaning.
The questioner : Yes, before I traveled, I photographed several copies. I said, “I will give the Shaykh a copy, perhaps in the future if you find something...”
The Shaykh : ...you will be thanked.
The questioner: May Allah bless you, and I also gave Shaykh Ali a copy, if Allah wills. May Allah bless you, okay... So we listened to al-Hiliyyah. May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : I suggest you put a title here in your handwriting and your composition.
The questioner : The title of the book, meaning.
Ali Hasan: Here, our brother Ali suggested, “Al-Tahaf...The student : ...with what was reported regarding the beard and the mustache.”
The Shaykh : Now.
The questioner : Now, quickly.
The Shaykh : That, if the title is not broader than the subject.
The questioner : Please, by Allah.
The Shaykh : Because you say the mustache.
The questioner : Because the beard, what came in it is the beard and the mustache.
The Shaykh : Yes, but you are researching, not just hadithically... and jurisprudentially.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : Okay, regarding the mustache, did you research whether it is...
The questioner : We will research trimming and shaving.
The Shaykh : Shaving the mustache, is there an objection? And this will be a direction in the title.
The questioner : Shaykh, I stole the title from him here. He says, “Al-Hiliyyah with what was reported regarding the mustache and the beard.”
The Shaykh : Ah, heh.
The questioner : I understood, our Shaykh, this is where I got the mustache from.
The Shaykh : Good, if Allah wills.
The questioner : May Allah preserve you, O Professor.
The Shaykh: O Allah, O Generous One.
The questioner : We said, O Shaykh, there is no objection if he writes an introduction or transfers the introduction of the book from the tape.
The Shaykh : I have no objection if you transfer it, but if you burden me to write this, it is difficult!
The questioner : No, even in defense of your school of thought.
The Shaykh : It does not matter to me, I am telling you there is no objection if you transfer it.
The questioner : Because the brothers, glory be to Allah, when I went to Saudi Arabia, all the brothers, how, the Shaykh says this statement, is it possible? So we were defending, but the defense, in reality, was not strong.
The Shaykh : On some points.
The questioner : On Ibn Umar and the action of Ibn Umar, meaning. But when we heard the tape, the tape was, meaning, strong.
Ali Hasan: ...
The questioner : Here, I did not bring it.
Ali Hasan: The tape was not recorded here.
The questioner : Strange.
The Shaykh : It is a phone call.
Ali Hasan: ... was ... present.
The Shaykh : No
Ali Hasan: It was not.
The questioner : No, I will answer for you, absolutely, very, very good, meaning.
The Shaykh : No, I would have liked someone other than you to make this request.
Ali Hasan: O Shaykh, there is no power and no strength except by Allah.
The questioner : Regarding the tapes, I have an opinion, meaning.
The Shaykh : Ha, Abu Ahmad.
The questioner : Abu Ahmad.
The Shaykh : How sleepy.
Another questioner : No, by Allah.
The Shaykh : And how did you miss it?
Another questioner : No, O Shaykh, as is not hidden from you, meaning, whenever I need tapes, they are just recordings.
The Shaykh: How.
The questioner : Any tape, our Shaykh, meaning, I do not have anything with me until I complete my recording!
The Shaykh : No, this is selfishness.
Ali Hasan: This is present, our Shaykh.
The questioner : This is the main points.
The Shaykh : No problem, no problem, the good is in the other, and I put your name.
The questioner : Yes, yes, below.
The Shaykh: O Allah, O Generous One.
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