What is the difference between these phrases ("he steals hadith," "liar," "fabricator")?
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The questioner : Here, our Shaykh, among the terms of al-jarh wa al-ta'dil (the critique and vindication of narrators), sometimes they say of a narrator that he steals hadith, sometimes they say he is a liar, and sometimes they say he is a fabricator.
The Shaykh : The narrator, or among the narrators?
The questioner : No, among the narrators. I mean, from the terms of al-jarh wa al-ta'dil (the critique and vindication of narrators), I wanted to know the differences or the distinction between these phrases.
The Shaykh : Please.
The questioner : May Allah reward you.
The Shaykh : And in you is blessing. As for the matter of someone who steals a hadith, he is undoubtedly committing a type of theft, a type of theft, but it is not like the fabricator who invents a hadith on his own, like—what is his name?—Ghayath ibn Ibrahim, or Ibrahim ibn Ghayath, who addedSunan Ibn Majah 2878Sahih (Darussalam) Ibrahim, or.
The questioner : Ghiyath.
The Shaykh : Ghiyath ibn Ibrahim. Ghiyath ibn Ibrahim was a distinguished scholar, and he used to sit with the kings in the time of al-Ma'mun, the son of Harun al-Rashid. This caliph had a special hobby in raising pigeons, which are called "zajal." They used to employ them in place of today's express mail. He had a special breeding program for them, but we are not concerned with that now. When the caliph saw that he was passionate about raising this type of pigeon, he wanted to get close to him, even if it meant fabricating against the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). So he narrated a correct hadith containing three types of animals, and he added a fourth. The correct hadith is his saying (peace and blessings be upon him):Bulugh al-Maram 11:61 These are three, so he added "or a bird" or "a bird" to please him, or "a wing of a bird."
The questioner : He meant "a bird" or "a wing" or "a wing."
The Shaykh : In any case, we do not fear the discrepancy because it is a fabricated addition. Yes, whether it was "a wing" or "a bird," the point is that al-Ma'mun, by his shrewdness and knowledge—and this is truly from the virtues of the early rulers, meaning they are not like our later rulers who know nothing at all about matters of religion, only politics and this Western politics—this was a jurist and a scholar who sat in the gatherings of the people of knowledge and hadith. So when he heard this addition, he exposed it immediately. He combined knowledge and science, and standing up for the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and zeal for it on one hand, with his politics regarding the people on the other hand. So what did he do? He presented to him a bag containing a large gift of dinars, and on the other hand, he presented to him, of course, through the boy or the chamberlain who was with him, [the message] that they had given him such and such. So when he went out, he said, audible to those around him, "I bear witness that the back of his head is the back of a liar," because he fabricated against the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). This is different from the thief. The thief takes the hadith of another and constructs a chain of narration for it, and the hadith may be correct. This happens often. Yes, so this is a type... what should we say... a general and specific relationship between the two matters. Not every fabricator is a thief. Yes, not every fabricator is a liar, pardon me, not every fabricator is a thief or a robber. But the thief is one who fabricates, but it is not necessary that his fabrication be invented; rather, he narrates it from another, even with a correct chain, and he constructs a chain for it on his own. The chain may be entirely invented, or he may have narrated it from a person from whom he did not hear, and then the one above him in the other correct chain, and so on. So I think we have now spoken about the thief who steals hadith and about the one who fabricates. And what about the liar? The liar, yes.
The questioner : About the liar.
The Shaykh : Likewise, the liar is an absolute term, but it does not include that he is a thief, like the fabricator. No, it does not include that he is a thief. That is, theft is more specific than lying and fabrication, but it shares with them.
The Shaykh : The narrator, or among the narrators?
The questioner : No, among the narrators. I mean, from the terms of al-jarh wa al-ta'dil (the critique and vindication of narrators), I wanted to know the differences or the distinction between these phrases.
The Shaykh : Please.
The questioner : May Allah reward you.
The Shaykh : And in you is blessing. As for the matter of someone who steals a hadith, he is undoubtedly committing a type of theft, a type of theft, but it is not like the fabricator who invents a hadith on his own, like—what is his name?—Ghayath ibn Ibrahim, or Ibrahim ibn Ghayath, who added
There should be no prizes for racing except races with camels
لا سبق إلا في خفThe questioner : Ghiyath.
The Shaykh : Ghiyath ibn Ibrahim. Ghiyath ibn Ibrahim was a distinguished scholar, and he used to sit with the kings in the time of al-Ma'mun, the son of Harun al-Rashid. This caliph had a special hobby in raising pigeons, which are called "zajal." They used to employ them in place of today's express mail. He had a special breeding program for them, but we are not concerned with that now. When the caliph saw that he was passionate about raising this type of pigeon, he wanted to get close to him, even if it meant fabricating against the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him). So he narrated a correct hadith containing three types of animals, and he added a fourth. The correct hadith is his saying (peace and blessings be upon him):
Prize money is allowed only for racing camels, shooting arrows or racing horses.
لا سبق إلا في خف أو نصل أو حافرThe questioner : He meant "a bird" or "a wing" or "a wing."
The Shaykh : In any case, we do not fear the discrepancy because it is a fabricated addition. Yes, whether it was "a wing" or "a bird," the point is that al-Ma'mun, by his shrewdness and knowledge—and this is truly from the virtues of the early rulers, meaning they are not like our later rulers who know nothing at all about matters of religion, only politics and this Western politics—this was a jurist and a scholar who sat in the gatherings of the people of knowledge and hadith. So when he heard this addition, he exposed it immediately. He combined knowledge and science, and standing up for the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and zeal for it on one hand, with his politics regarding the people on the other hand. So what did he do? He presented to him a bag containing a large gift of dinars, and on the other hand, he presented to him, of course, through the boy or the chamberlain who was with him, [the message] that they had given him such and such. So when he went out, he said, audible to those around him, "I bear witness that the back of his head is the back of a liar," because he fabricated against the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him). This is different from the thief. The thief takes the hadith of another and constructs a chain of narration for it, and the hadith may be correct. This happens often. Yes, so this is a type... what should we say... a general and specific relationship between the two matters. Not every fabricator is a thief. Yes, not every fabricator is a liar, pardon me, not every fabricator is a thief or a robber. But the thief is one who fabricates, but it is not necessary that his fabrication be invented; rather, he narrates it from another, even with a correct chain, and he constructs a chain for it on his own. The chain may be entirely invented, or he may have narrated it from a person from whom he did not hear, and then the one above him in the other correct chain, and so on. So I think we have now spoken about the thief who steals hadith and about the one who fabricates. And what about the liar? The liar, yes.
The questioner : About the liar.
The Shaykh : Likewise, the liar is an absolute term, but it does not include that he is a thief, like the fabricator. No, it does not include that he is a thief. That is, theft is more specific than lying and fabrication, but it shares with them.
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