Continuation of the discussion on the issue of performing Hajj on behalf of another.

The Shaykh : The Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) did not seek further details; because he knew from...The questioner : that the issue is limited in scope and boundaries, so there is no need for the Messenger to seek further details and clarification, is that clear? Therefore, applying this rule to other than this hadith should be considered, and it should not be applied absolutely. As for here, it does not apply at all to what we mentioned earlier. After this, something else comes: the person for whom Hajj is performed can be a father, like the father of al-Khat'iyyah. In that case, there is no evidence in the hadith. This is secondly. Thirdly: it can be on behalf of a testator who bequeathed to the pilgrim who was responding to the call on behalf of Shubramah to perform Hajj on his behalf. Thus, the hadith exits being evidence for the argument of substitution in a general sense without restriction or condition, and enters the subject of executing a lawful bequest. I was saying this, and then Allah the Exalted, by His grace, stopped me with narrations in al-Tabarani's al-Mu'jam al-Kabir and others. Although I have not yet been reassured of the authenticity of their chains, they are in any case narrations in this story My father, do you see? In that case, the dots are placed on the letters, as they say today, completely. So it is not permissible to use the hadith as evidence ever.

The questioner : We do not find these topics in the Book, and praise be to Allah who guided us to this.

The Shaykh: Yes.
Al-Halabi : Regarding the narration of Abu, yesterday, glory be to Allah, I was looking into it, meaning in al-Tabarani's al-Mu'jam al-Awsat, it seems, my teacher, I remember once. So the hadith is in the route of Khalid al-Hizam from Abu Qilabah from Ibn Abbas, but the narrator from them, who is the shaykh of al-Tabarani's shaykh, was not authenticated by anyone except Ibn Hibban, and he said about him: The people of Kufa narrated from him, and he is strange. And the rest of the men of the chain, meaning all of them, are like mountains.

The Shaykh : In any case, I am not concerned with authentication now, yes.

The questioner : Yes, but there is a phrase by al-Tabarani after that which is understood, as we benefited from your comments, our teacher, to be understood that he did not narrate it alone, when he said: No one narrated it from so-and-so except so-and-so, so what came in the biography of the narrator...

The Shaykh : who is usually considered strange...

The questioner : meaning, I benefited from the professor's comments in such a case that this phrase is understood to have a supporting chain, so do I remember if you came across anything of that?

The Shaykh : I believe it was mentioned in more than one source, yes, and some of my comments in some of my works drew attention to such a narration, and I am without a doubt, meaning to silence the opponent, its proof is important to me, and by the way of the people of hadith. As for me, I do not need it to be proven because I do not have the opposite.

The questioner : Because the issue is clear.

The Shaykh : Ah, that is it.

The questioner : The last question, so I do not prolong.

The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good.

The questioner : The last one regarding him, our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : As for the others, these are our guests... the guest is bankrupt and has nothing, but our brother here, it appears, is self-sufficient. Please proceed.