The Shaykh Al-Albani’s commentary on a segment of this tape (regarding al-Turabi).
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The Shaykh : The phrases he mentioned earlier are sufficient for us, but we are now discussing this lecturer. Is he praising al-Turabi, or is he reporting what an opponent of Islam said?
The questioner : We are only listening.
The Shaykh: All right.
"The tape: And that he is good at adapting to circumstances. So how do newspapers like al-Sharq al-Awsat or others describe them as extremists?"
The questioner : Did you not hear, our Shaykh?
Another questioner : The speech is clear.The Shaykh
"The tape: It generally carries the hostility of the Christians toward the Muslims. And yet the man was described as one who adapts to circumstances and is good at living with the situation. So how do newspapers like al-Sharq al-Awsat or others describe them as extremists and fundamentalists? As al-Sharq al-Awsat inserted the Yemeni"The Shaykh : "Abd al-Majid al-Zindani among the extremists, and considered the gatherings and educational camps held in Yemen to be centers for producing extremists and training terrorists, without presenting a single piece of evidence for that."
Another questioner : The discussion about al-Turabi is over.
The Shaykh : It is over. He is now talking about al-Zindani. Yes, that is right.
Another questioner : Now, our brothers say that we support al-Turabi.
The questioner : When you say that Ibn al-'Awam, from among the Muslims, says this opinion, or says this to the Christians, or reads to this Christian about al-Turabi’s opinion and mentions it among the Muslims there, and you do not say that this is your personal opinion about al-Turabi, that is injustice, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. There is no room here for expressing his opinion. His intention is to show how people are saying about al-Turabi that he is a fundamentalist and an extremist, and yet what is he?
The questioner : Adaptable.
The Shaykh : No, adaptable. He knows how to get out of it, then he comes to al-Zindani, and so on. He is showing that these people from al-Sharq al-Awsat attribute this to extremism, and these Christians say, "No, he is adaptable." He does not want to judge al-Turabi with an opinion, whether it is the opinion of al-Sharq al-Awsat or the opinion of that Christian.
Another questioner : The topic, my brother, is that he brought up the topic of Hamas.
The questioner : O my Shaykh.
Another questioner : It is not about Hamas.
The questioner : Allow me a moment. This man is reviewing the movements of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Arab countries.
The Shaykh : O Professor, O Abu Yusuf, I beg you, I beg you, do not let the discussion be like this.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : We are talking about what we do not want to bring in things outside of what we are hearing on the tape, because what we brought is outside the scope. It is sufficient for him to give us a bad translation about al-Turabi.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : But the point here is that this man is good at praising and has a good opinion of al-Turabi. This does not give that at all. He is only reporting the words of a Christian and the words of al-Sharq al-Awsat. These people say that this man is a Bedouin who knows how to graduate and what he turns into in the topics, and the others say that he is an extremist. Who is the truthful one and who is the liar? There is no testimony here.
The questioner : Selection. For example, this witness, al-Turabi. I believe that after he moved from point to point, from one Arab country to another, and then reached al-Turabi and mentioned al-Turabi in this image, meaning these Westerners and these Christians praise him, and then he presents this praise, regardless of the witness he has in this story.
The Shaykh : Who is presenting the praise? May Allah reward you.
The questioner : The Christian.
The Shaykh : Okay, this is presenting praise from the Christian, and those are accusing, what is the name of this man, al-Turabi, of what? Being a fundamentalist, a fanatic.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : If he is reporting contradictory ideas, he does not want to say, "By Allah, I adopt that he is a fundamentalist and that he is not an extremist," or that I adopt the opinion of the others. His whole concern here is to refute al-Sharq al-Awsat.
The questioner : Yes, or the journalists, meaning generally.
The Shaykh : Or the journalists, good.
The questioner : But the point is, O Shaykh, mentioning an innovator like al-Turabi, and the opinion of the people of the Sunnah and the community about this man, it is not befitting for him to mention, for example, something about this personality.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. This is not the occasion and this is not the topic. The topic is that I do not see it permissible for us to take from this speech he reported from the Christian that he is good at praising al-Turabi. We do not take from this, because he is reporting contradictory journalistic statements. But as for saying, "By Allah, he himself..."
The questioner : Before I adopt this opinion, may Allah reward you, I presented this tape to more than one brother, and in one way or another, the personality of al-Turabi comes to my mind, and perhaps I am mistaken about this.The Shaykh : By Allah, there are other things. In what we have read and what we have heard, it is sufficient for us to take a translation about al-Turabi, but to take from this tape that al-'Uwda is praising al-Turabi.
The Shaykh : And Allah, there are other things in it. From what we have read and heard, it is sufficient for us to take a translation from al-Turabi, but to take from this tape that al-'Uwda praises al-Turabi.
The questioner : Meaning, there were other witnesses, like the Wahhabis, that they are the extremists. He can say that among the common Muslims and among the magazines now, is that not so, O Shaykh 'Ali? As for...
Al-Halabi : He is perhaps, O our Shaykh, drawing attention. Our brother Abu Yusuf, it seems to me that even if he repeated jumping, he did not focus on the point. But it occurs to me that the examples he gave for the accusation of extremism are all examples from the political school of the Muslim Brotherhood and the like. Whereas the Western newspapers, whether al-Sharq al-Awsat with its secularism, or al-Hayya with its philosophy, or others, do not only talk about these people, but they talk about the Salafis, they talk about the Wahhabis, they talk about the preachers, about...The Shaykh: Ibn Baz. They speak aboutThe Shaykh : Nasser. He could, if he wanted to serve the Salafi call, the call of the Book and the Sunnah, bring examples about these people, because people now do not associate in their minds the blame; they associate in their minds the defense of the blame, which automatically requires from them praise. And even if I or my Shaykh, for example, tells you that this does not necessarily imply praise, indeed, but does every common person, O our Shaykh, who hears this speech understand what is implied from it?
The Shaykh : This is another matter, because Abu Yusuf is not from the common people. Give me the case that, by Allah, it would have been better if we said yes, but to take this speech we just heard from the tape and take it as testimony that he is good at praising al-Turabi.
Al-Halabi : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : This is not sufficient.
Al-Halabi : But the point you mentioned, O our Shaykh, does it have a face?
The Shaykh : I say that the topic of whether it was not that he is refuting this suspicion, this is more worthy of him to say words that praise the people of truth with praise and blame, yes, it was more worthy, but the question...
Al-Halabi: Specifically regarding al-Turabi.
The Shaykh : The question is, does this speech make it permissible for us, according to the Shari'ah, to accuse al-'Uwda of being good at praising this, in which that Christian said he is a fundamentalist?
Al-Halabi : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : It does not give us that.
The questioner : It does not give us that. May Allah reward you with good. You have clarified this point for me, but as our brother and companion,The Shaykh : 'Ali, may Allah guide him, mentioned, the point is that this tape is circulated in the hands of students of knowledge and non-students of knowledge.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you, O Abu Yusuf. I told you at the beginning of the session, regarding the fiqh of reality, and I do not think you will forget, and you are, by Allah’s will, strong in memory. I told you that they are correct in some aspects in raising the fiqh of reality, and that it is obligatory for the scholar to be aware of reality, and so on. And we said this is a good matter. But first, the scholar cannot encompass all of this reality. Second, and here is the point, it is not befitting to raise this topic before the common people. This is another issue. The issue of the policy of speech is one thing, and the issue of accusing this speaker of praising one who is against the call, in my opinion and in your opinion, and perhaps in his opinion, give me, I am not biased toward anyone, I say perhaps in his opinion. But to take only this speech as evidence that he is good at praising this al-Turabi, no, by Allah, I say this does not mean that.
The questioner : This does not mean that.
The Shaykh : This does not mean that.
The questioner : And the point mentioned by our brother...The Shaykh : on
The Shaykh : That is what I answered.
The questioner : Yes, is there, meaning, something of...
Another questioner : May Allah reward you. In what I understood and knew from the beginning of the tape...
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace.
Another questioner : That it is a lecture about extremism, and that he will come out with a clear opinion on extremism. So up to now...
The Shaykh : It is not apparent.
Another questioner : His opinion has not appeared, meaning...
The Shaykh : And it is so.
Another questioner : Now he is reviewing the statements...
The Shaykh : Authentic
Another questioner : Then he will begin the analysis and inference, and he will issue his ruling. I have not understood the issue of extremism up to now, let alone the issue of al-Turabi or others.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is correct. Please, let us hear the recording.
"The recording: 'Tracing the extremists and training the terrorists without presenting a single piece of evidence for this, and this newspaper forgot that it is speaking about a reality that is separated from it by only one generation, and verifying these news reports... but personal political hostility... as this term was established by the Tunisian Ennahda Party, which is one of the most tolerant, indeed lax, Islamic movements in its ideas.'"
The questioner : We are only listening.
The Shaykh: All right.
"The tape: And that he is good at adapting to circumstances. So how do newspapers like al-Sharq al-Awsat or others describe them as extremists?"
The questioner : Did you not hear, our Shaykh?
Another questioner : The speech is clear.The Shaykh
"The tape: It generally carries the hostility of the Christians toward the Muslims. And yet the man was described as one who adapts to circumstances and is good at living with the situation. So how do newspapers like al-Sharq al-Awsat or others describe them as extremists and fundamentalists? As al-Sharq al-Awsat inserted the Yemeni"The Shaykh : "Abd al-Majid al-Zindani among the extremists, and considered the gatherings and educational camps held in Yemen to be centers for producing extremists and training terrorists, without presenting a single piece of evidence for that."
Another questioner : The discussion about al-Turabi is over.
The Shaykh : It is over. He is now talking about al-Zindani. Yes, that is right.
Another questioner : Now, our brothers say that we support al-Turabi.
The questioner : When you say that Ibn al-'Awam, from among the Muslims, says this opinion, or says this to the Christians, or reads to this Christian about al-Turabi’s opinion and mentions it among the Muslims there, and you do not say that this is your personal opinion about al-Turabi, that is injustice, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. There is no room here for expressing his opinion. His intention is to show how people are saying about al-Turabi that he is a fundamentalist and an extremist, and yet what is he?
The questioner : Adaptable.
The Shaykh : No, adaptable. He knows how to get out of it, then he comes to al-Zindani, and so on. He is showing that these people from al-Sharq al-Awsat attribute this to extremism, and these Christians say, "No, he is adaptable." He does not want to judge al-Turabi with an opinion, whether it is the opinion of al-Sharq al-Awsat or the opinion of that Christian.
Another questioner : The topic, my brother, is that he brought up the topic of Hamas.
The questioner : O my Shaykh.
Another questioner : It is not about Hamas.
The questioner : Allow me a moment. This man is reviewing the movements of the Muslim Brotherhood in the Arab countries.
The Shaykh : O Professor, O Abu Yusuf, I beg you, I beg you, do not let the discussion be like this.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : We are talking about what we do not want to bring in things outside of what we are hearing on the tape, because what we brought is outside the scope. It is sufficient for him to give us a bad translation about al-Turabi.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : But the point here is that this man is good at praising and has a good opinion of al-Turabi. This does not give that at all. He is only reporting the words of a Christian and the words of al-Sharq al-Awsat. These people say that this man is a Bedouin who knows how to graduate and what he turns into in the topics, and the others say that he is an extremist. Who is the truthful one and who is the liar? There is no testimony here.
The questioner : Selection. For example, this witness, al-Turabi. I believe that after he moved from point to point, from one Arab country to another, and then reached al-Turabi and mentioned al-Turabi in this image, meaning these Westerners and these Christians praise him, and then he presents this praise, regardless of the witness he has in this story.
The Shaykh : Who is presenting the praise? May Allah reward you.
The questioner : The Christian.
The Shaykh : Okay, this is presenting praise from the Christian, and those are accusing, what is the name of this man, al-Turabi, of what? Being a fundamentalist, a fanatic.
The questioner: Yes.
The Shaykh : If he is reporting contradictory ideas, he does not want to say, "By Allah, I adopt that he is a fundamentalist and that he is not an extremist," or that I adopt the opinion of the others. His whole concern here is to refute al-Sharq al-Awsat.
The questioner : Yes, or the journalists, meaning generally.
The Shaykh : Or the journalists, good.
The questioner : But the point is, O Shaykh, mentioning an innovator like al-Turabi, and the opinion of the people of the Sunnah and the community about this man, it is not befitting for him to mention, for example, something about this personality.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you. This is not the occasion and this is not the topic. The topic is that I do not see it permissible for us to take from this speech he reported from the Christian that he is good at praising al-Turabi. We do not take from this, because he is reporting contradictory journalistic statements. But as for saying, "By Allah, he himself..."
The questioner : Before I adopt this opinion, may Allah reward you, I presented this tape to more than one brother, and in one way or another, the personality of al-Turabi comes to my mind, and perhaps I am mistaken about this.The Shaykh : By Allah, there are other things. In what we have read and what we have heard, it is sufficient for us to take a translation about al-Turabi, but to take from this tape that al-'Uwda is praising al-Turabi.
The Shaykh : And Allah, there are other things in it. From what we have read and heard, it is sufficient for us to take a translation from al-Turabi, but to take from this tape that al-'Uwda praises al-Turabi.
The questioner : Meaning, there were other witnesses, like the Wahhabis, that they are the extremists. He can say that among the common Muslims and among the magazines now, is that not so, O Shaykh 'Ali? As for...
Al-Halabi : He is perhaps, O our Shaykh, drawing attention. Our brother Abu Yusuf, it seems to me that even if he repeated jumping, he did not focus on the point. But it occurs to me that the examples he gave for the accusation of extremism are all examples from the political school of the Muslim Brotherhood and the like. Whereas the Western newspapers, whether al-Sharq al-Awsat with its secularism, or al-Hayya with its philosophy, or others, do not only talk about these people, but they talk about the Salafis, they talk about the Wahhabis, they talk about the preachers, about...The Shaykh: Ibn Baz. They speak aboutThe Shaykh : Nasser. He could, if he wanted to serve the Salafi call, the call of the Book and the Sunnah, bring examples about these people, because people now do not associate in their minds the blame; they associate in their minds the defense of the blame, which automatically requires from them praise. And even if I or my Shaykh, for example, tells you that this does not necessarily imply praise, indeed, but does every common person, O our Shaykh, who hears this speech understand what is implied from it?
The Shaykh : This is another matter, because Abu Yusuf is not from the common people. Give me the case that, by Allah, it would have been better if we said yes, but to take this speech we just heard from the tape and take it as testimony that he is good at praising al-Turabi.
Al-Halabi : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : This is not sufficient.
Al-Halabi : But the point you mentioned, O our Shaykh, does it have a face?
The Shaykh : I say that the topic of whether it was not that he is refuting this suspicion, this is more worthy of him to say words that praise the people of truth with praise and blame, yes, it was more worthy, but the question...
Al-Halabi: Specifically regarding al-Turabi.
The Shaykh : The question is, does this speech make it permissible for us, according to the Shari'ah, to accuse al-'Uwda of being good at praising this, in which that Christian said he is a fundamentalist?
Al-Halabi : Yes, yes.
The Shaykh : It does not give us that.
The questioner : It does not give us that. May Allah reward you with good. You have clarified this point for me, but as our brother and companion,The Shaykh : 'Ali, may Allah guide him, mentioned, the point is that this tape is circulated in the hands of students of knowledge and non-students of knowledge.
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you, O Abu Yusuf. I told you at the beginning of the session, regarding the fiqh of reality, and I do not think you will forget, and you are, by Allah’s will, strong in memory. I told you that they are correct in some aspects in raising the fiqh of reality, and that it is obligatory for the scholar to be aware of reality, and so on. And we said this is a good matter. But first, the scholar cannot encompass all of this reality. Second, and here is the point, it is not befitting to raise this topic before the common people. This is another issue. The issue of the policy of speech is one thing, and the issue of accusing this speaker of praising one who is against the call, in my opinion and in your opinion, and perhaps in his opinion, give me, I am not biased toward anyone, I say perhaps in his opinion. But to take only this speech as evidence that he is good at praising this al-Turabi, no, by Allah, I say this does not mean that.
The questioner : This does not mean that.
The Shaykh : This does not mean that.
The questioner : And the point mentioned by our brother...The Shaykh : on
The Shaykh : That is what I answered.
The questioner : Yes, is there, meaning, something of...
Another questioner : May Allah reward you. In what I understood and knew from the beginning of the tape...
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace.
Another questioner : That it is a lecture about extremism, and that he will come out with a clear opinion on extremism. So up to now...
The Shaykh : It is not apparent.
Another questioner : His opinion has not appeared, meaning...
The Shaykh : And it is so.
Another questioner : Now he is reviewing the statements...
The Shaykh : Authentic
Another questioner : Then he will begin the analysis and inference, and he will issue his ruling. I have not understood the issue of extremism up to now, let alone the issue of al-Turabi or others.
The Shaykh : Yes, this is correct. Please, let us hear the recording.
"The recording: 'Tracing the extremists and training the terrorists without presenting a single piece of evidence for this, and this newspaper forgot that it is speaking about a reality that is separated from it by only one generation, and verifying these news reports... but personal political hostility... as this term was established by the Tunisian Ennahda Party, which is one of the most tolerant, indeed lax, Islamic movements in its ideas.'"
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