Discussion regarding the claim of those who wish to go out for jihad in Palestine.

The Shaykh : The movement there intends to go out in a kind of march and has called upon the Muslims.

The questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : The point is, we are not concerned with names; I do not pay much attention to them. The idea might be in Algeria, because the number he mentioned to me was five million. The main thing is that I asked him, "Is it permissible for us to go out?" He said, "They intend to gather on the basis of declaring jihad." I said to him, "You mentioned this huge number. Where is the jihad? Is there any jihad now?" He said, "Yes, the jihad is in Palestine." I said to him, "How do you intend to reach Palestine? Does your government allow you to go out, five million of you, to fight in Palestine? Second, will you reach Palestine by land or by air? And which countries will allow you to pass through their territories if you are going by land? And if by air, do you have planes and helicopters specifically to land in Palestine and fight the Jews? Or do you want Allah to provide you with the carpet of the wind, as happened with Sulayman (peace be upon him)? Or are you a group that thinks only like this? What about the path of jihad and the preparation for jihad? The poor man knew his title. He said to me, "That is why we return to the people of knowledge to ask them." I said to him, "O man, this is not a scholarly issue; this is an issue that requires a little thought. How will you reach Palestine when you have all these barriers?" He said, "Just as our brother said, may Allah reward you with good. Glory be to Allah, they have strange emotions and a strange simplicity."
Abu Layla : One person enters from here to there, and before he reaches here, he will be killed.

The Shaykh : Allahu Akbar. I do not know how they imagine things to be this easy. They say they want to fight in Palestine. They cannot even cross their own borders. If you want to hold a simple demonstration and it crosses the borders, they will stop you at your limit. Five million? Five million need a state to sustain them, to provide them with food and drink. Where are the weapons? Where is the strength?
Abu Layla : Shaykh, two hundred thousand entered here and caused a famine in the country. How can it be five million?

The Shaykh : It is a strange thing, a regrettable thing.
Abu Layla : All of this will be mentioned, our Shaykh. The principle in these matters is purification, education, and teaching people the creed.

The questioner : The creed. The recent sermons have become...

The Shaykh : It is as if the Hour has stood, and yet nothing has happened.

The questioner : Well, is this from the people, or can we say there is a motive that moves them to this?

The Shaykh : I attributed it to his (peace and blessings be upon him) saying: .
Al-Halabi : Our Shaykh, before the Maghrib prayer, the imam who led us in the mosque, after he said the taslim, naturally, he made a long qunut after the taslim, without the praise, without the testimonies, without anything. "Rejoice in victory, rejoice in honor, rejoice in establishment." Since Saddam Hussein announced that he would print "Allahu Akbar and the honor belongs to Allah" on the world, did you know, our Shaykh?

The Shaykh : No, by Allah.

The questioner : He announced that he would print "Allahu Akbar and the honor belongs to Allah" on the world.

The Shaykh : But will he announce the abolition of the party, the Ba'ath Party?
Al-Halabi : So since he announced it, one of the Saudi soldiers, when he heard the news, killed twelve Americans, and two American planes fell from the sky before the war, and so on. "Rejoice, O Ummah of Islam." Glory be to Allah, what Allah willed. It is something that tickles the emotions and stirs the souls. We ask Allah to bring about what is better. People do not look at the present, or today, or tomorrow. If it is written in the newspaper about the meetings of the Regional Command of the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party, meaning, glory be to Allah, just the word "Allahu Akbar."

The Shaykh : The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) spoke the truth when he said: .
Abu Layla : Our Shaykh, is it permissible in a council of Saddam's to speak thousands of words, all of which are his disavowal of the party, but he does not speak two words?
Al-Halabi : The problem is not the words.

The Shaykh : I heard that there were questions directed, I do not know if it is an old recording or today, where he says, "Companion So-and-so, this word alone is sufficient." He is still using the terms of the Ba'athists and the communists, and some of them announce that it is Islamic jihad. May Allah will that no one dislikes that the one who errs repents to Allah and returns to Him. But we do not want to be anything other than what 'Umar said: "I am not a fool, nor is a fool to deceive me."

The questioner : What is a fool?

The Shaykh : One who deceives people.

The questioner : Our Shaykh, he wishes for it.