Is the greeting of the mosque prayed in the Eid prayer ground?
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The Shaykh : He says: If a person comes to the Eid prayer ground, does he pray the greeting of the mosque?
We say: Yes, he prays the greeting of the mosque, because the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) made its ruling the same as that of the mosque in prohibiting menstruating women from entering it, and he said that menstruating women should stay away from the prayer ground. And since its ruling is the same as that of the mosque, all the rulings of the mosque apply to it. So a person in a state of major ritual impurity does not remain in it except with ablution, and if a person enters it, he prays the greeting of the mosque.
If someone says: This is contrary to the Sunnah, because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) went out and prayed the Eid prayer of two units, and he did not pray before them or after them, what is the answer?
The answer: It is easy for every student of knowledge to know it.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : He was the orator, meaning he came to the Eid prayer ground and delivered the sermon. Is that correct? Do people on Eid day deliver the sermon before they pray, or do they pray before they deliver the sermon? Yes? I am asking you. Meaning, on Eid day, is it possible to prioritize the prayer, or is it possible to prioritize the sermon?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Do you remember last year when it was Eid day? Did the imam pray and then deliver the sermon, or did he deliver the sermon and then pray? It is permissible by your understanding. Rest. Who knows the answer to this? Please.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : It is possible that he was the imam, and as soon as he arrived, he prayed, and this is the greeting of the mosque. This is the Eid prayer and the greeting of the mosque. Rest. If we were to adopt this reasoning or this argument, we would say that even the Friday prayer is not prayed, because the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) came and prayed the Friday prayer of two units, and he did not pray before them or after them, even the regular voluntary prayers attached to the Friday prayer, he used to pray them in his house. But even though the sermon is prioritized over the prayer on Friday, the result is that the Eid prayer ground is like other mosques in that the greeting of the mosque is recommended in it. However, it should not be that this action becomes a cause of dispute or contention among people, because the people in this country, and perhaps in other countries, have followed what the jurists said, which is that one does not pray the greeting of the mosque on Eid. So if you see someone praying, do not contend with him. This is your opinion, and praise be to Allah, the matter is broad. But yes, you may ask him, saying: My brother, how do you pray the greeting of the mosque when the people are not praying? If this man prayed it with knowledge, he will say to you: Because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:Sahih al-Bukhari 1167 and that will satisfy you. But for it to be a cause of contention and for people to attack each other, that is wrong. This is a matter of scholarly disagreement, so whoever acts according to this and enters and sits following those who say that the greeting of the mosque is not prayed, there is no blame on him. And whoever enters and prays the greeting of the mosque following those who said that it is prayed, there is no blame on him. Who is more knowledgeable than a man who ate camel meat with you, and he did not consider eating camel meat to break the ablution, while you consider that eating camel meat breaks the ablution. So you stood up and performed ablution and prayed, while he stood up and prayed without performing ablution. Do you disapprove of him? Hmm? You do not disapprove of him as long as he holds this opinion. You do not disapprove of him, but I may say: My brother, why did you not perform ablution? Either he will satisfy me, or I will satisfy him, but without disapproval. Discussion is fine, but disapproval is wrong in matters of scholarly disagreement where disagreement is permissible.
Okay, what do you say if he was the imam, do you pray behind him? My brothers, you ate camel meat with the imam, then you stood up for prayer, and the imam went forward without performing ablution, and those with him performed ablution. Do they pray behind him? Yes?
The student: Yes, they pray.
The Shaykh : They pray behind him. Okay, it is correct that they pray behind him.
If someone says: How do you pray behind him when you believe that he prayed without ablution?
I say: I believe that he prayed without ablution in what I see, and I believe that he prayed with purity in what he sees. Okay. Give us a hadith... Hmm?
The questioner : ... The rising of the sun?
The Shaykh : This one says: I entered the Eid prayer ground before the sun, and that is a time of prohibition. So we say: There is no prohibition regarding the greeting of the mosque. A person prays whenever he enters the mosque, at any time. Okay, let's go.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Here.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My people, it has become a discussion about Eid, everything.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It is fine, and even if it does not encompass the Eid prayer ground. Okay.
We say: Yes, he prays the greeting of the mosque, because the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) made its ruling the same as that of the mosque in prohibiting menstruating women from entering it, and he said that menstruating women should stay away from the prayer ground. And since its ruling is the same as that of the mosque, all the rulings of the mosque apply to it. So a person in a state of major ritual impurity does not remain in it except with ablution, and if a person enters it, he prays the greeting of the mosque.
If someone says: This is contrary to the Sunnah, because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) went out and prayed the Eid prayer of two units, and he did not pray before them or after them, what is the answer?
The answer: It is easy for every student of knowledge to know it.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : He was the orator, meaning he came to the Eid prayer ground and delivered the sermon. Is that correct? Do people on Eid day deliver the sermon before they pray, or do they pray before they deliver the sermon? Yes? I am asking you. Meaning, on Eid day, is it possible to prioritize the prayer, or is it possible to prioritize the sermon?
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : Do you remember last year when it was Eid day? Did the imam pray and then deliver the sermon, or did he deliver the sermon and then pray? It is permissible by your understanding. Rest. Who knows the answer to this? Please.
The student: ... .
The Shaykh : It is possible that he was the imam, and as soon as he arrived, he prayed, and this is the greeting of the mosque. This is the Eid prayer and the greeting of the mosque. Rest. If we were to adopt this reasoning or this argument, we would say that even the Friday prayer is not prayed, because the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) came and prayed the Friday prayer of two units, and he did not pray before them or after them, even the regular voluntary prayers attached to the Friday prayer, he used to pray them in his house. But even though the sermon is prioritized over the prayer on Friday, the result is that the Eid prayer ground is like other mosques in that the greeting of the mosque is recommended in it. However, it should not be that this action becomes a cause of dispute or contention among people, because the people in this country, and perhaps in other countries, have followed what the jurists said, which is that one does not pray the greeting of the mosque on Eid. So if you see someone praying, do not contend with him. This is your opinion, and praise be to Allah, the matter is broad. But yes, you may ask him, saying: My brother, how do you pray the greeting of the mosque when the people are not praying? If this man prayed it with knowledge, he will say to you: Because the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said:
If anyone of you enters a Mosque, he should not sit until he has offered a tworak` at prayer.
إذا دخل أحدكم المسجد فلا يجلس حتى يصلي ركعتينOkay, what do you say if he was the imam, do you pray behind him? My brothers, you ate camel meat with the imam, then you stood up for prayer, and the imam went forward without performing ablution, and those with him performed ablution. Do they pray behind him? Yes?
The student: Yes, they pray.
The Shaykh : They pray behind him. Okay, it is correct that they pray behind him.
If someone says: How do you pray behind him when you believe that he prayed without ablution?
I say: I believe that he prayed without ablution in what I see, and I believe that he prayed with purity in what he sees. Okay. Give us a hadith... Hmm?
The questioner : ... The rising of the sun?
The Shaykh : This one says: I entered the Eid prayer ground before the sun, and that is a time of prohibition. So we say: There is no prohibition regarding the greeting of the mosque. A person prays whenever he enters the mosque, at any time. Okay, let's go.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Here.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : My people, it has become a discussion about Eid, everything.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : It is fine, and even if it does not encompass the Eid prayer ground. Okay.
