The Meaning of the Poet's Statement: "This is what has contradicted reason..." and the Clarification that a Person Accepts the Truth from Whomever It Comes
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The Shaykh : The author (may Allah have mercy on him) says:
"This is what has contradicted reason, *** and the transmitted texts, and the innate dispositions of man"
Who is it that says this?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, the Jahmiyyah say: How do you say that our speech contradicts reason, the transmitted texts, the innate dispositions, and languages? This is what contradicts reason, the transmitted texts, the innate dispositions, and languages; this is the one that contradicts, and they are truthful in this. We agree with the Jahmiyyah that what the Asha'irah held to is not called speech. The meaning that subsists in the self is never called speech. Pay attention, do we agree with the Jahmiyyah?
The student : In this matter, yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, because the truth must be accepted from whomever it comes from, whomever said it, even if he were a disbeliever or one who associates partners with Allah. Allah the Exalted said:[Al-A'raf 7:28] Two things: We found our fathers upon it. What is the second thing?
The student : Allah commanded us to do it.
The Shaykh : Allah said[Al-A'raf 7:28] So He refuted their statement [Al-A'raf 7:28] because it is false, and He affirmed their statement [Al-A'raf 7:28] So the truth is accepted even from a disbeliever, and falsehood is rejected even from a believer, correct? This is justice. So the statement of the Jahmiyyah to the Asha'irah that their statement contradicts reason, the transmitted texts, and the innate dispositions of man is a true statement. For what they held to is not reasonable, nor is it transmitted, nor does the innate disposition lead to it, nor do languages approve of it.
"This is what has contradicted reason, *** and the transmitted texts, and the innate dispositions of man"
Who is it that says this?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, the Jahmiyyah say: How do you say that our speech contradicts reason, the transmitted texts, the innate dispositions, and languages? This is what contradicts reason, the transmitted texts, the innate dispositions, and languages; this is the one that contradicts, and they are truthful in this. We agree with the Jahmiyyah that what the Asha'irah held to is not called speech. The meaning that subsists in the self is never called speech. Pay attention, do we agree with the Jahmiyyah?
The student : In this matter, yes.
The Shaykh : Yes, because the truth must be accepted from whomever it comes from, whomever said it, even if he were a disbeliever or one who associates partners with Allah. Allah the Exalted said:
And when they commit an immorality, they say, "We found our fathers doing it, and Allah has ordered us to do it."
وإذا فعلوا فاحشة قالوا وجدنا عليها آباءنا والله أمرنا بهاThe student : Allah commanded us to do it.
The Shaykh : Allah said