The Meaning of the Poet's Saying: "Those are the principles of the Mu'tazilah, and how many *** branches they have, among which is the creation of the Qur'an and the denial of the attributes of the Divine and their negation *** of His exaltation and being above the Most Merciful"
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The Shaykh : He says
"Those are the principles of the Mu'tazilah, and how many *** branches they have, among which is the creation of the Qur'an"
They say the Qur'an is created, that the Qur'an is created like other created things, separate from Allah like other separate things, and not an attribute of Him, but rather it is attributed to Him by the attribution
The student : ...
The Shaykh : of the created to its Creator, so the House of Allah and the Speech of Allah are the same in their view, because the Speech of Allah is created and the House of Allah is created.
"And they built upon these principles *** the denial and the denial of the attributes of the Divine"
This is also something they built upon their principles, or upon their five, five, okay. The denial of the attributes of the Divine is built upon what? Upon tawhid (the oneness of Allah)
"And their negation of His exaltation *** and being above the Most Merciful"
This is also built upon tawhid (the oneness of Allah), because they believe that affirming this exaltation necessitates ascribing a body to Allah and comparing Allah to creation.
"And likewise their denial of seeing Him on the Day of *** Meeting, as one sees the two moons"
They also built this upon that, because they say if He were seen, He would be a body, and this is shirk (associating partners with Allah).
"And they denied the decree of the Lord and the divine decree *** which preceded in the Book"
"Which *** preceded in the Book, both of which are inevitable"
Built upon what?
The student : ...
The Shaykh : Here
The student : ...
The Shaykh : Built upon justice, okay.
"And for the sake of those principles ***" Yes
"Those are the principles of the Mu'tazilah, and how many *** branches they have, among which is the creation of the Qur'an"
They say the Qur'an is created, that the Qur'an is created like other created things, separate from Allah like other separate things, and not an attribute of Him, but rather it is attributed to Him by the attribution
The student : ...
The Shaykh : of the created to its Creator, so the House of Allah and the Speech of Allah are the same in their view, because the Speech of Allah is created and the House of Allah is created.
"And they built upon these principles *** the denial and the denial of the attributes of the Divine"
This is also something they built upon their principles, or upon their five, five, okay. The denial of the attributes of the Divine is built upon what? Upon tawhid (the oneness of Allah)
"And their negation of His exaltation *** and being above the Most Merciful"
This is also built upon tawhid (the oneness of Allah), because they believe that affirming this exaltation necessitates ascribing a body to Allah and comparing Allah to creation.
"And likewise their denial of seeing Him on the Day of *** Meeting, as one sees the two moons"
They also built this upon that, because they say if He were seen, He would be a body, and this is shirk (associating partners with Allah).
"And they denied the decree of the Lord and the divine decree *** which preceded in the Book"
"Which *** preceded in the Book, both of which are inevitable"
Built upon what?
The student : ...
The Shaykh : Here
The student : ...
The Shaykh : Built upon justice, okay.
"And for the sake of those principles ***" Yes