(Their blind following of the words of their scholars) For his word is a decisive text for us *** And the apparent meanings of the transmitted texts have meanings, and the text is knowledgeable about it, unlike us *** And what is the solution in its state
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The Shaykh :"For his word is a decisive text for us *** And the apparent meanings of the transmitted texts have meanings"
Do you mean apparent meanings, or apparent and apparent?
The student: Apparent meanings
The Shaykh :"And the apparent meanings of the transmitted texts have meanings" This is the reason they return to the words of their scholars, because it is a text for them, whereas the transmitted Book and Sunnah are apparent meanings that allow for multiple interpretations
"And the text is knowledgeable about it, unlike us ***" And what is the solution for it
The student: And in its state
The Shaykh :"And what is the solution of the blind in its state"
They say: The scholar is more knowledgeable about the text than we are, and more knowledgeable about its state. Yes, and what is our solution, for we are blind with regard to the scholars, except for their holding on, "What is the solution of the blind
Except their holding on to the hands of a sighted person *** Until he leads them"
Is that correct or not? The blind person has no solution except to hold the hand of a sighted person until he leads them like those with reins. What are those with reins?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, camels, horses, and donkeys are all led by reins, and mules. They say: We are followers, we have no solution except to hold on to the words of our scholars. Ibn al-Qayyim likened them to those with reins. Arsan is the plural of risan, which is the rein of a beast.
Do you mean apparent meanings, or apparent and apparent?
The student: Apparent meanings
The Shaykh :"And the apparent meanings of the transmitted texts have meanings" This is the reason they return to the words of their scholars, because it is a text for them, whereas the transmitted Book and Sunnah are apparent meanings that allow for multiple interpretations
"And the text is knowledgeable about it, unlike us ***" And what is the solution for it
The student: And in its state
The Shaykh :"And what is the solution of the blind in its state"
They say: The scholar is more knowledgeable about the text than we are, and more knowledgeable about its state. Yes, and what is our solution, for we are blind with regard to the scholars, except for their holding on, "What is the solution of the blind
Except their holding on to the hands of a sighted person *** Until he leads them"
Is that correct or not? The blind person has no solution except to hold the hand of a sighted person until he leads them like those with reins. What are those with reins?
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, camels, horses, and donkeys are all led by reins, and mules. They say: We are followers, we have no solution except to hold on to the words of our scholars. Ibn al-Qayyim likened them to those with reins. Arsan is the plural of risan, which is the rein of a beast.