Reading from the words of the poet: So show compassion to the Jahmiyyah, the blind ones who *** tore apart the fence of reason and the Qur'an
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The reader: "So show compassion to the Jahmiyyah, the blind ones who *** tore apart the fence of reason and the Qur'an
They scattered those who followed them and clothed them *** Nay, call out in their assembly with the adhan
Have you corrupted the rational and the transmitted *** and the heard from language in every tongue
Is it valid to describe a thing with a derivative *** whose meaning has been stripped away, for those with intellects? "
The Shaykh : With a derivative for the one whose meaning has been stripped away.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, is it valid to describe a thing with a derivative *** for the one whose meaning has been stripped away
The reader: "Is it valid to describe a thing with a derivative *** for the one whose meaning has been stripped away, for those with intellects?
Is it valid to say "patient" when there is no patience *** and valid to say "thankful" without gratitude?
Is it valid to say "knowing" when there is no knowledge *** and valid to say "forgiving" without forgiveness?
And it is said, "This one is hearing or seeing" *** while hearing and sight are absent
This is impossible in reason and in the transmitted texts *** and in languages, and not possible at all
So if you claim that He is a speaker *** but only with a speech that resides in a human
Or another, it is said, "This is false" *** and upon you in that are two errors
Denying the derivation of the word for the one *** whose meaning resides in Him, and affirming it for the second "
The Shaykh : Its affirmation with the damma, its affirmation.
The reader: "Denying the derivation of the word for the one *** whose meaning resides in Him, and affirming it for the second
I mean the one whose meaning does not reside in Him *** inverting the realities is the ugliest lie
And similar to this are two brothers, one seeing *** and his brother counted among the blind
You called the blind one seeing because his brother *** is seeing, and the opposite in the second
So if you claim that that is established *** in His action, like the creation of the worlds
And the action does not reside in our God *** for He is not a place for what is new
And it is valid to derive "Creator" from Him *** so likewise "Speaker," the One
He is the doer of His speech and His book *** the speech is not an attribute of meaning for Him "
They scattered those who followed them and clothed them *** Nay, call out in their assembly with the adhan
Have you corrupted the rational and the transmitted *** and the heard from language in every tongue
Is it valid to describe a thing with a derivative *** whose meaning has been stripped away, for those with intellects? "
The Shaykh : With a derivative for the one whose meaning has been stripped away.
The student: ...
The Shaykh : No, is it valid to describe a thing with a derivative *** for the one whose meaning has been stripped away
The reader: "Is it valid to describe a thing with a derivative *** for the one whose meaning has been stripped away, for those with intellects?
Is it valid to say "patient" when there is no patience *** and valid to say "thankful" without gratitude?
Is it valid to say "knowing" when there is no knowledge *** and valid to say "forgiving" without forgiveness?
And it is said, "This one is hearing or seeing" *** while hearing and sight are absent
This is impossible in reason and in the transmitted texts *** and in languages, and not possible at all
So if you claim that He is a speaker *** but only with a speech that resides in a human
Or another, it is said, "This is false" *** and upon you in that are two errors
Denying the derivation of the word for the one *** whose meaning resides in Him, and affirming it for the second "
The Shaykh : Its affirmation with the damma, its affirmation.
The reader: "Denying the derivation of the word for the one *** whose meaning resides in Him, and affirming it for the second
I mean the one whose meaning does not reside in Him *** inverting the realities is the ugliest lie
And similar to this are two brothers, one seeing *** and his brother counted among the blind
You called the blind one seeing because his brother *** is seeing, and the opposite in the second
So if you claim that that is established *** in His action, like the creation of the worlds
And the action does not reside in our God *** for He is not a place for what is new
And it is valid to derive "Creator" from Him *** so likewise "Speaker," the One
He is the doer of His speech and His book *** the speech is not an attribute of meaning for Him "