(But the opposition of the people of the Sunnah was not to the text, unlike the Asha'irah) This, and you opposed the text when we opposed the opinion of Jahm, the one of slander, and by Allah, you have no answer.
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The Shaykh :"This, and you opposed"
Yes.
"This, and you opposed"
The student: To the text
The Shaykh :"To the text when we opposed the opinion of Jahm, the one of slander"
Meaning: We did not oppose the text; you opposed the text. We opposed the opinion of Jahm. So who is more deserving of being declared a disbeliever: the one who opposes the text, or the one who opposes the false opinion? The one who opposes the text.
"And by Allah, you have no answer except *** declaring us disbelievers without knowledge or certainty"
Yes, that is correct. They have no answer except to shout at us: You are disbelievers, you are those who ascribe a body to Allah, you are those who liken Allah to creation, and so on, all the disparagement they say.
Yes.
"This, and you opposed"
The student: To the text
The Shaykh :"To the text when we opposed the opinion of Jahm, the one of slander"
Meaning: We did not oppose the text; you opposed the text. We opposed the opinion of Jahm. So who is more deserving of being declared a disbeliever: the one who opposes the text, or the one who opposes the false opinion? The one who opposes the text.
"And by Allah, you have no answer except *** declaring us disbelievers without knowledge or certainty"
Yes, that is correct. They have no answer except to shout at us: You are disbelievers, you are those who ascribe a body to Allah, you are those who liken Allah to creation, and so on, all the disparagement they say.