And so they brought us the clear explanation, yet you said: *** Where is the riddle in the clear explanation? (The call of all the messengers came with clear explanation.
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The Shaykh : He says: “And so they brought us the clear explanation, yet you said *** Where is the riddle in the clear explanation”
A riddle means obscuring and concealing. Did the messengers come with the riddle or with the clear explanation? With the clear, obvious explanation. As for the riddle, they did not come with it. For this reason, if someone were to say to you: A man prayed an obligatory prayer and it became obligatory for him to recite the tashahhud in it six times, and it is an obligatory prayer in which he must recite the tashahhud six times, you would say: What is this? One prayer with six tashahhuds? What is this? This is a riddle, because it obscures things from us. Yes, and I think Sulayman knows it? Do you know it?
The student: No, no.
The Shaykh : The prayer that has six tashahhuds, okay, is this Fahd?
The student: This prayer is the Maghrib prayer.
The Shaykh : The Maghrib prayer, or the Zuhr prayer because it has four?
The student: No, just the Maghrib, but I did not catch it completely with the imam. I only caught the last rak'ah, or the second rak'ah after the rising, so I caught
The Shaykh : After the rising from where?
The student: After the rising from the bowing.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: So I caught the tashahhud now ... the rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Huh? That is one.
The student: Then I recited the tashahhud with the imam, and the imam made a mistake due to forgetfulness, so the prostration would be before the salam.
The Shaykh : Before the salam? Huh.
The student: So he prostrated with the imam and sat for the tashahhud.
The Shaykh : There is no tashahhud before the salam, there is no tashahhud.
The student: Okay, two.
The Shaykh : Two.
The student: Then he stood up and completed it, so he ended up with two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... and he had, and he also made a mistake and recited the tashahhud before he said the salam, meaning: he prostrated the prostration for forgetfulness and then sat.
The Shaykh : Meaning he prostrated the prostration for forgetfulness before the salam?
The student: After the salam.
The Shaykh : After the taslim.
The student: This is according to the opinion of some scholars who say.
The Shaykh : There are two opinions on this.
The student: How many tashahhuds is this?
The Shaykh : Four, two tashahhuds with the imam, three after.
The student: Five.
The Shaykh : Five, five, this is five.
The student: The prostration for forgetfulness remains when he makes a mistake.
The Shaykh : It does not contradict; when he made a mistake and performed the prostration and the tashahhud, the fifth tashahhud occurred.
The student : Three, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Shall we postpone it until tomorrow? Huh? Or shall I say it, I am faster.
The student: Say it.
The Shaykh : Okay, he joined the imam in the second rak'ah of the Maghrib prayer, so he sat and recited the first tashahhud for the imam, which does not count for him, and he recited the second tashahhud with the imam. The imam was in a state of forgetfulness, so his prostration would be after the salam. The well-known view in the school of thought is that the ma'mum follows the imam in the prostration after the salam, and that the prostration after the salam requires the tashahhud. So he followed the imam and recited the tashahhud. How many is this?
The student: Three.
The Shaykh : Three. Then he stood up for the second rak'ah and sat for the first tashahhud in his case, but he said the salam, so he said the salam before the completion of the prayer. Then he remembered and stood up, so he performed the rak'ah, which rak'ah? The third, and recited the tashahhud. And the place of the prostration for him was after the salam, because he said the salam before completing it. So he prostrated after the salam and recited the tashahhud. How many is this? Six tashahhuds, yes, that is right.
The important thing is that a riddle means obscuring, that a person brings something that obscures things from others. Yes, for this reason they say: It is not permissible to eat bitter oranges after the 'Asr prayer in Ramadan. It is not permissible to eat bitter oranges after the 'Asr prayer in Ramadan.
The student: And in other than Ramadan.
The Shaykh : No.
The student: They are not eaten after the 'Asr ...
The Shaykh : Okay, he says: “There is no riddle among people except these two”
No, before it, before that.
“Where is the riddle in the clear explanation”
A riddle means obscuring and concealing. Did the messengers come with the riddle or with the clear explanation? With the clear, obvious explanation. As for the riddle, they did not come with it. For this reason, if someone were to say to you: A man prayed an obligatory prayer and it became obligatory for him to recite the tashahhud in it six times, and it is an obligatory prayer in which he must recite the tashahhud six times, you would say: What is this? One prayer with six tashahhuds? What is this? This is a riddle, because it obscures things from us. Yes, and I think Sulayman knows it? Do you know it?
The student: No, no.
The Shaykh : The prayer that has six tashahhuds, okay, is this Fahd?
The student: This prayer is the Maghrib prayer.
The Shaykh : The Maghrib prayer, or the Zuhr prayer because it has four?
The student: No, just the Maghrib, but I did not catch it completely with the imam. I only caught the last rak'ah, or the second rak'ah after the rising, so I caught
The Shaykh : After the rising from where?
The student: After the rising from the bowing.
The Shaykh : Very well.
The student: So I caught the tashahhud now ... the rak'ah.
The Shaykh : Huh? That is one.
The student: Then I recited the tashahhud with the imam, and the imam made a mistake due to forgetfulness, so the prostration would be before the salam.
The Shaykh : Before the salam? Huh.
The student: So he prostrated with the imam and sat for the tashahhud.
The Shaykh : There is no tashahhud before the salam, there is no tashahhud.
The student: Okay, two.
The Shaykh : Two.
The student: Then he stood up and completed it, so he ended up with two tashahhuds.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The student: ... and he had, and he also made a mistake and recited the tashahhud before he said the salam, meaning: he prostrated the prostration for forgetfulness and then sat.
The Shaykh : Meaning he prostrated the prostration for forgetfulness before the salam?
The student: After the salam.
The Shaykh : After the taslim.
The student: This is according to the opinion of some scholars who say.
The Shaykh : There are two opinions on this.
The student: How many tashahhuds is this?
The Shaykh : Four, two tashahhuds with the imam, three after.
The student: Five.
The Shaykh : Five, five, this is five.
The student: The prostration for forgetfulness remains when he makes a mistake.
The Shaykh : It does not contradict; when he made a mistake and performed the prostration and the tashahhud, the fifth tashahhud occurred.
The student : Three, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : Shall we postpone it until tomorrow? Huh? Or shall I say it, I am faster.
The student: Say it.
The Shaykh : Okay, he joined the imam in the second rak'ah of the Maghrib prayer, so he sat and recited the first tashahhud for the imam, which does not count for him, and he recited the second tashahhud with the imam. The imam was in a state of forgetfulness, so his prostration would be after the salam. The well-known view in the school of thought is that the ma'mum follows the imam in the prostration after the salam, and that the prostration after the salam requires the tashahhud. So he followed the imam and recited the tashahhud. How many is this?
The student: Three.
The Shaykh : Three. Then he stood up for the second rak'ah and sat for the first tashahhud in his case, but he said the salam, so he said the salam before the completion of the prayer. Then he remembered and stood up, so he performed the rak'ah, which rak'ah? The third, and recited the tashahhud. And the place of the prostration for him was after the salam, because he said the salam before completing it. So he prostrated after the salam and recited the tashahhud. How many is this? Six tashahhuds, yes, that is right.
The important thing is that a riddle means obscuring, that a person brings something that obscures things from others. Yes, for this reason they say: It is not permissible to eat bitter oranges after the 'Asr prayer in Ramadan. It is not permissible to eat bitter oranges after the 'Asr prayer in Ramadan.
The student: And in other than Ramadan.
The Shaykh : No.
The student: They are not eaten after the 'Asr ...
The Shaykh : Okay, he says: “There is no riddle among people except these two”
No, before it, before that.
“Where is the riddle in the clear explanation”