The latecomer when his imam prostrates for forgetfulness after the salam: does he follow him?
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The questioner : If the follower is a latecomer and the imam owes the prostration for forgetfulness, and he prostrates after the salam, and the follower stands up after the salam, does he return for the prostration for forgetfulness?
The Shaykh : The stronger opinion in this issue is that if the prostration for forgetfulness is after the salam, and the follower is a latecomer, he does not follow his imam. When the imam says the salam, he stands up and performs what remains of his prayer. Then, if the imam’s forgetfulness occurred in the part of the prayer that this latecomer caught up with, he prostrates after the salam. If it occurred in the part he missed, he does not prostrate. Why? Because when the imam said the salam, his prayer ended. — Be patient, my son, listen to the answer; it will benefit you more than being occupied with asking the question. — I say: When the imam said the salam, did his prayer end or not? It ended. And the latecomer cannot follow him in that, because he cannot follow him; if he were to say the salam, his prayer would become invalid. What indicates that the imam’s prayer ended with the salam is: if he were to break his ritual purity before the prostration for forgetfulness, would he have to repeat the prayer? No. Why? Because the prayer has ended. And if it has ended, then the latecomer only has to stand up, and then follow the details you have heard. This is the most correct of the opinions in this issue, even though some scholars said: he must prostrate with him without saying the salam. If he stands up, it is as if he stood up from the first tashahhud; meaning, if he remains standing, he does not return, otherwise he returns.
Three, three, O Abdullah. We have a rule we follow. Do you allow him? Fine.
The Shaykh : The stronger opinion in this issue is that if the prostration for forgetfulness is after the salam, and the follower is a latecomer, he does not follow his imam. When the imam says the salam, he stands up and performs what remains of his prayer. Then, if the imam’s forgetfulness occurred in the part of the prayer that this latecomer caught up with, he prostrates after the salam. If it occurred in the part he missed, he does not prostrate. Why? Because when the imam said the salam, his prayer ended. — Be patient, my son, listen to the answer; it will benefit you more than being occupied with asking the question. — I say: When the imam said the salam, did his prayer end or not? It ended. And the latecomer cannot follow him in that, because he cannot follow him; if he were to say the salam, his prayer would become invalid. What indicates that the imam’s prayer ended with the salam is: if he were to break his ritual purity before the prostration for forgetfulness, would he have to repeat the prayer? No. Why? Because the prayer has ended. And if it has ended, then the latecomer only has to stand up, and then follow the details you have heard. This is the most correct of the opinions in this issue, even though some scholars said: he must prostrate with him without saying the salam. If he stands up, it is as if he stood up from the first tashahhud; meaning, if he remains standing, he does not return, otherwise he returns.
Three, three, O Abdullah. We have a rule we follow. Do you allow him? Fine.