It is established that the Messenger used to ask and seek refuge in voluntary prayer. Is that established in obligatory prayer?
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The questioner : May Allah reward you.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It is reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) regarding voluntary prayer, (peace and blessings be upon him and his family), that when he passed a verse of promise, he asked Allah for His bounty, and when he passed a verse of warning, he sought refuge from the Fire. Is that established in the obligatory prayer? And if it is established in the obligatory prayer, is it established, for example, in Surat al-Fatihah, that when a person passes[Al-Fatihah 1:5] he says: "We seek help from Allah" and the like?
The Shaykh : As for voluntary prayer, yes. In the night prayer, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) did so, as Hudhayfah described it, and it is a recommended practice in the night prayer.
As for the obligatory prayer, there is no harm, but we do not say that it is a recommended practice. This is because those who described the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) loud and quiet prayers do not mention this. If he had paused to seek refuge, ask, or glorify, they would have mentioned it. Therefore, when he paused for the opening supplication, Abu Hurayrah asked him:Sahih al-Bukhari 744 So, regarding the obligatory prayer, we say there is no harm, and we cannot forbid something that is remembrance and supplication. But specifically for the voluntary night prayer, we say it is a recommended practice. Do you understand? As for [Al-Fatihah 1:5], you do not say "We seek help from Allah," neither in the obligatory prayer nor in the voluntary prayer. Why? Because you are currently informing [Al-Fatihah 1:5]. How do you say "We seek help from Allah"? The meaning of "We seek help from Allah" is the meaning of [Al-Fatihah 1:5]. Rather, [Al-Fatihah 1:5] is better than "We seek help from Allah" because it indicates exclusivity and continuity, unlike "We seek help from Allah." Yes, the important point is that "We seek help from Allah" is not said, neither in the obligatory prayer nor in the voluntary prayer, not by the imam, not by the one praying behind him, and not by the one praying alone. Yes.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : It is reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) regarding voluntary prayer, (peace and blessings be upon him and his family), that when he passed a verse of promise, he asked Allah for His bounty, and when he passed a verse of warning, he sought refuge from the Fire. Is that established in the obligatory prayer? And if it is established in the obligatory prayer, is it established, for example, in Surat al-Fatihah, that when a person passes
It is You we worship and You we ask for help.
إِيَّاكَ نَعْبُدُ وَإِيَّاكَ نَسْتَعِينُThe Shaykh : As for voluntary prayer, yes. In the night prayer, the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) did so, as Hudhayfah described it
When he passed a verse of glorification, he glorified; when he passed a verse of mercy, he asked; and when he passed a verse of punishment, he sought refuge.
إذا مر بآية تسبيح سبح وبآية رحمة سأل وبآية عذاب تعوذAs for the obligatory prayer, there is no harm, but we do not say that it is a recommended practice. This is because those who described the Prophet's (peace and blessings be upon him) loud and quiet prayers do not mention this. If he had paused to seek refuge, ask, or glorify, they would have mentioned it. Therefore, when he paused for the opening supplication, Abu Hurayrah asked him: