Is the issue of the saved sect and the victorious sect among the matters of religion for which one shows loyalty and hostility? And is one who distinguishes between them an innovator?
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The questioner : Your Eminence, peace be upon you and Allah's mercy and blessings.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and Allah's mercy and blessings.
The questioner : Is the issue of the saved sect and the victorious sect among the fundamentals of religion for which one shows loyalty and hostility?
The Shaykh : What did you say?
The questioner : One shows loyalty and hostility for it.
The Shaykh : Before, before the first question.
The questioner : Is the issue of the saved sect and the victorious sect among the fundamentals of religion for which one shows loyalty and hostility? And is one who distinguishes between the saved sect and the victorious sect an innovator? May Allah preserve you.
The Shaykh : It is well known among the people of the Sunnah that the saved sect is the victorious sect until the Hour comes. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said in al-'Aqidah al-Wasitiyyah: "As for what follows, this is the belief of the saved sect, the victorious sect until the Hour comes, the people of the Sunnah and the community" This is what is well known among the scholars that the saved sect, the victorious sect until the Hour comes, are two descriptions of a single described entity, and there is no difference between them.
This issue is not among the major issues for which one shows hostility or loyalty. If two people differ in their understanding of it, it is obligatory for every person who disagrees with another to discuss it with him in a calm manner, with the aim of reaching the truth. Then, if each remains with what he sees, that is a matter left to Allah; Allah the Mighty and Majestic will hold him accountable for his intention. However, we do not compel others to what we see, because if we compel others to what we see, we have placed ourselves in a position that is not ours, placing ourselves in the rank of being infallible while others are in error. This is a dangerous position, because no one's words are accepted in all circumstances except the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him and his family). No human being's words are accepted in all circumstances except the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him and his family). And how is it fitting for a sane person to try to compel others to his opinion, yet not accept being compelled by others to their opinion? That is, if you see that you should compel people to your opinion, then you should also accept that people compel you to their opinion; otherwise, this is a contradiction.
The questioner : All right, Shaykh, regarding the issue of declaring someone an innovator (tabdi') for the one who distinguishes between the saved sect and the victorious sect—is it declaring that person an innovator?
The Shaykh : I do not see that the issue reaches the level of religious innovation (bid'ah). This issue may differ in its details, and as I told you, a person should discuss it in a calm discussion. I believe that, if Allah wills, the truth will be realized in a calm discussion, but this kind of aggressive discussion contains much error.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.
The Shaykh : And upon you be peace and Allah's mercy and blessings.
The questioner : Is the issue of the saved sect and the victorious sect among the fundamentals of religion for which one shows loyalty and hostility?
The Shaykh : What did you say?
The questioner : One shows loyalty and hostility for it.
The Shaykh : Before, before the first question.
The questioner : Is the issue of the saved sect and the victorious sect among the fundamentals of religion for which one shows loyalty and hostility? And is one who distinguishes between the saved sect and the victorious sect an innovator? May Allah preserve you.
The Shaykh : It is well known among the people of the Sunnah that the saved sect is the victorious sect until the Hour comes. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said in al-'Aqidah al-Wasitiyyah: "As for what follows, this is the belief of the saved sect, the victorious sect until the Hour comes, the people of the Sunnah and the community" This is what is well known among the scholars that the saved sect, the victorious sect until the Hour comes, are two descriptions of a single described entity, and there is no difference between them.
This issue is not among the major issues for which one shows hostility or loyalty. If two people differ in their understanding of it, it is obligatory for every person who disagrees with another to discuss it with him in a calm manner, with the aim of reaching the truth. Then, if each remains with what he sees, that is a matter left to Allah; Allah the Mighty and Majestic will hold him accountable for his intention. However, we do not compel others to what we see, because if we compel others to what we see, we have placed ourselves in a position that is not ours, placing ourselves in the rank of being infallible while others are in error. This is a dangerous position, because no one's words are accepted in all circumstances except the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him and his family). No human being's words are accepted in all circumstances except the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him and his family). And how is it fitting for a sane person to try to compel others to his opinion, yet not accept being compelled by others to their opinion? That is, if you see that you should compel people to your opinion, then you should also accept that people compel you to their opinion; otherwise, this is a contradiction.
The questioner : All right, Shaykh, regarding the issue of declaring someone an innovator (tabdi') for the one who distinguishes between the saved sect and the victorious sect—is it declaring that person an innovator?
The Shaykh : I do not see that the issue reaches the level of religious innovation (bid'ah). This issue may differ in its details, and as I told you, a person should discuss it in a calm discussion. I believe that, if Allah wills, the truth will be realized in a calm discussion, but this kind of aggressive discussion contains much error.
The questioner : May Allah reward you with good.