There is no evidence for the people of ta'til (denial of the divine attributes) for their falsehood.
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The student: Ta'wil (figurative interpretation), we say, you have... We say this, and the people of ta'wil (figurative interpretation), we say, do you have minds?
The Shaykh : By Allah, do not say they do not have minds, O Shaykh. Look, your age is advanced, O Salim.
The student: ...the people of the Sunnah... their affirmation.
The Shaykh : But do not say they do not have minds.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Do not say you do not have minds.
The student: No, they do not have minds, minds that understand the truth, O Shaykh. Even if they had minds, they would understand the truth.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is correct.
The student: Because they know that the people of the Sunnah affirm what Allah has affirmed for Himself and deny what Allah has denied of Himself.
The Shaykh : Correct.
The student: And they bring words from themselves and depict them with their minds. How does it come to you that they deny what Allah has affirmed and affirm from their own minds what they affirm?
The Shaykh : O Allah, to You belongs all praise. Yes, it is correct, O brother Salim. The reality is that they have no evidence at all; rather, the evidence is against them. But we ask Allah to guide us and you to the straight path of Allah. Indeed, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), and he was a Prophet, used to begin the night prayer with his saying:Mishkat al-Masabih 1212 We are all in need of guidance. Yes.
The Shaykh : By Allah, do not say they do not have minds, O Shaykh. Look, your age is advanced, O Salim.
The student: ...the people of the Sunnah... their affirmation.
The Shaykh : But do not say they do not have minds.
The student: Yes.
The Shaykh : Do not say you do not have minds.
The student: No, they do not have minds, minds that understand the truth, O Shaykh. Even if they had minds, they would understand the truth.
The Shaykh : Yes, that is correct.
The student: Because they know that the people of the Sunnah affirm what Allah has affirmed for Himself and deny what Allah has denied of Himself.
The Shaykh : Correct.
The student: And they bring words from themselves and depict them with their minds. How does it come to you that they deny what Allah has affirmed and affirm from their own minds what they affirm?
The Shaykh : O Allah, to You belongs all praise. Yes, it is correct, O brother Salim. The reality is that they have no evidence at all; rather, the evidence is against them. But we ask Allah to guide us and you to the straight path of Allah. Indeed, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), and he was a Prophet, used to begin the night prayer with his saying: