If a scholar from among the scholars of the Sunnah declares a specific person a disbeliever, are we obligated to agree with his statement?
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The questioner : If a scholar from among the scholars of Ahl al-Sunnah wa al-Jama'ah (the people of the Sunnah and the community) declares someone a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Is it?
The questioner : If a scholar from among the scholars declares someone a disbeliever?
The Shaykh : If it is reported to us.
The questioner : A scholar from among the scholars of the Sunnah declaring a specific man a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Are we obligated to say what he said?
The Shaykh : No, we are not obligated to say what he said. Let us look into it, because the one who declared this man a disbeliever may have been mistaken.
The questioner : The reverse is the same, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : We are only obligated to declare someone a disbeliever if the Book and the Sunnah indicate that he is a disbeliever.
The questioner : Because some of them say regarding al-Ma'mun and those with him...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They say this is the statement of Imam Ahmad...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They say this is the statement of Imam Ahmad: we declare him a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : We.
The questioner : This is the statement of Imam Ahmad.
The Shaykh : That we declare him a disbeliever or that we do not declare him a disbeliever.
The questioner : We declare them disbelievers.
The Shaykh : How can Imam Ahmad make du'a' (supplication) for him while we declare him a disbeliever?
The questioner : They say this is the ijtihad (independent legal reasoning) of Imam Ahmad.
The Shaykh : Fine.
The questioner : And we are not obligated to follow him.
The Shaykh : I say you are not obligated to do so if the evidence before you establishes that al-Ma'mun is a disbeliever, then declare him a disbeliever, even if Imam Ahmad said he is not a disbeliever. But attributing to Imam Ahmad that he declared him a disbeliever when he did not declare him a disbeliever, that is the error. Yes.
The third one is this. Muhammad Khalil, and the residence, this is the third question, three, this is the third, okay.
The Shaykh : Is it?
The questioner : If a scholar from among the scholars declares someone a disbeliever?
The Shaykh : If it is reported to us.
The questioner : A scholar from among the scholars of the Sunnah declaring a specific man a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : Are we obligated to say what he said?
The Shaykh : No, we are not obligated to say what he said. Let us look into it, because the one who declared this man a disbeliever may have been mistaken.
The questioner : The reverse is the same, O Shaykh.
The Shaykh : We are only obligated to declare someone a disbeliever if the Book and the Sunnah indicate that he is a disbeliever.
The questioner : Because some of them say regarding al-Ma'mun and those with him...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They say this is the statement of Imam Ahmad...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : They say this is the statement of Imam Ahmad: we declare him a disbeliever.
The Shaykh : We.
The questioner : This is the statement of Imam Ahmad.
The Shaykh : That we declare him a disbeliever or that we do not declare him a disbeliever.
The questioner : We declare them disbelievers.
The Shaykh : How can Imam Ahmad make du'a' (supplication) for him while we declare him a disbeliever?
The questioner : They say this is the ijtihad (independent legal reasoning) of Imam Ahmad.
The Shaykh : Fine.
The questioner : And we are not obligated to follow him.
The Shaykh : I say you are not obligated to do so if the evidence before you establishes that al-Ma'mun is a disbeliever, then declare him a disbeliever, even if Imam Ahmad said he is not a disbeliever. But attributing to Imam Ahmad that he declared him a disbeliever when he did not declare him a disbeliever, that is the error. Yes.
The third one is this. Muhammad Khalil, and the residence, this is the third question, three, this is the third, okay.