Does not the hadith of the water skin indicate the permissibility of using their vessels?
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The Shaykh : Yes?
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The Shaykh : What?
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The Shaykh : Yes, where from, Ahmad?
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The Shaykh : No, no... This is the hadith of the woman; the Messenger did not take the water skin with him, but he drank from it. Therefore, if a Jew or a Christian brings you a vessel to drink from, there is no harm in drinking what is in it. As for this hadith, we told you previously that the intention is to borrow it and use it exclusively, and that the operative cause is that the Messenger loves for us to keep our distance from these people... Yes?
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The Shaykh : Yes.
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The Shaykh : No, this is different; this is originally pickled, it is not wine vinegar.
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The Shaykh : Moreover, we have not yet completed the hadith, because some say that if the People of the Book, who consider wine permissible, pickle wine, it becomes lawful for us because the People of the Book make it available for acquisition.
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The Shaykh : ... It must ferment; wine is not necessarily required to ferment.
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The Shaykh : ... We told you that it means dates, grapes, or something similar are placed in water, and it is also called nabidh, and then it is pickled, yes.
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The Shaykh : And what is the meaning of ...
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The Shaykh : This is what appears to be the case, but we do not know if its taste is good or not?
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The Shaykh : Huh?
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The Shaykh : Perhaps you will invite us to taste it.
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The Shaykh : What?
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The Shaykh : Yes.
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The Shaykh : What are they?
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The Shaykh : Ah, you mean... No, this does not harm, it does not harm.
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The Shaykh : What?
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The Shaykh : Yes, it purifies.
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The Shaykh : Bring the first one so we can see.
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The Shaykh : ... This is one, what is the second?
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The Shaykh : Yes.
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The Shaykh : That something is taken from it; the substance containing the impurity is scooped out, and the remainder that does not contain impurity stays. That is, sometimes the impurity... only what is around it changes, and we mentioned to you in the example that if the water is abundant, you remove it and what is around it, and the remaining water stays pure.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : What?
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The Shaykh : Yes, where from, Ahmad?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : No, no... This is the hadith of the woman; the Messenger did not take the water skin with him, but he drank from it. Therefore, if a Jew or a Christian brings you a vessel to drink from, there is no harm in drinking what is in it. As for this hadith, we told you previously that the intention is to borrow it and use it exclusively, and that the operative cause is that the Messenger loves for us to keep our distance from these people... Yes?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes.
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The Shaykh : No, this is different; this is originally pickled, it is not wine vinegar.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Moreover, we have not yet completed the hadith, because some say that if the People of the Book, who consider wine permissible, pickle wine, it becomes lawful for us because the People of the Book make it available for acquisition.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : ... It must ferment; wine is not necessarily required to ferment.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : ... We told you that it means dates, grapes, or something similar are placed in water, and it is also called nabidh, and then it is pickled, yes.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : And what is the meaning of ...
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : This is what appears to be the case, but we do not know if its taste is good or not?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Huh?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Perhaps you will invite us to taste it.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : What are they?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : ...
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Ah, you mean... No, this does not harm, it does not harm.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes, it purifies.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Bring the first one so we can see.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : ... This is one, what is the second?
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The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : That something is taken from it; the substance containing the impurity is scooped out, and the remainder that does not contain impurity stays. That is, sometimes the impurity... only what is around it changes, and we mentioned to you in the example that if the water is abundant, you remove it and what is around it, and the remaining water stays pure.