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Is that clear? And note also that there is no equality between incidental good and intrinsic good, because incidental good loses its goodness when the cause is removed, whereas the goodness of intrinsic good is fixed and permanent. So we say that it is derived from this that refraining from idle talk is a praiseworthy act. We mentioned this, yes, the praise for refraining from idle talk.
The student: ...

The Shaykh : Yes, ... as long as we said that it is incidental good, then when it ends and the cause for which it occurs is removed, what remains is idle talk with no benefit, and it is best to leave it off .
The student: ... other sessions.

The Shaykh : In this same session, as for the other sessions, each session has its own ruling. But even regarding this session, if the cause for which I am speaking to them is removed, the goodness goes away. It is possible to move them to another beneficial conversation or something similar. In reality, the discerning person can ... and among the best things is that when some people accompany someone, they may direct useful questions to him, for example, in religion, in order to keep people occupied from idle talk that has no benefit, and also to draw them to research, because a person may have a question he has forgotten, and when the door opens, he remembers it. This is among the best things, especially for students of knowledge, who should be beneficial to people in their sessions. That is to say, it is not befitting for a student of knowledge to have a session like that of an ordinary person; rather, he should strive for benefit as much as possible.
It is derived from the noble verses that one should disavow the people of idle talk and not sit with them, based on their saying: . Such is the case.
It is derived from this: the prescription of the greeting upon departure, based on his saying: And this applies to the author's interpretation of it, or does it not? No, ... well, because the meaning of the author's words does not allow this benefit to stand based on the author's interpretation, since he considers the greeting here to be a greeting of departure, not a greeting of salutation. And so this benefit is not taken. He only attributed it to the greeting of departure based on his interpretation of idle talk as being insult and slander. And the truth is that this interpretation is incomplete, because cursing and insult may not be called merely idle talk, but rather idle talk and aggression. So it is more specific than being idle talk.
This benefit ... from the prescription of the greeting, because we have preferred that it is general.
The student: Does it contradict ... ?

The Shaykh : It does not contradict the verse, because it said: And when they hear the idle talk, the speech that has no good in it and that has evil in it, and the speech that has no good in it, a person can ... from them and say, "Peace be upon you," as a greeting of salutation, because it is not forbidden.
And among the benefits of the verse is that it is not befitting for a person of intellect to seek out the foolish, let alone sit with them, based on his saying: Because seeking them out actually leads to sitting with them, and sitting with the ignorant is a sin, as Allah the Exalted said: [Al-An'am: 68]. So it is not befitting for a person to seek out the people of foolishness and sit with them, or at least to be pleased with what they do, for this is among the characteristics that the people of good and faith do not possess.