Regarding the first form, which is saying, "I sold you this commodity for such-and-such cash, and for such-and-such on credit," it is established from Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn Mas'ud that they interpreted the hadith in this manner.
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The questioner : Shaykh, regarding this first form?
The Shaykh : Which one is it?
The questioner : "I sold you this commodity for such-and-such cash, and for more than that by such-and-such." It is established from Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn Mas'ud that they interpreted it with this interpretation.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And the Shaykh al-Islam interpreted it in another place... the narration...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And it is established from Imam Ahmad...
The Shaykh : Yes, all of this contradicts the apparent meaning of the hadith. It contradicts the apparent meaning of the hadith.
The questioner : Well, how...
The Shaykh : And the Shaykh al-Islam (may Allah have mercy on him) interpreted it, quoting from his student Ibn al-Qayyim in *Tahdhib al-Sunan*, because he interpreted it in this way.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : I say that the interpretation of the Companion...
The Shaykh : I say there is a problem with it, as long as we have the hadith...
The questioner : And no one is known to have opposed them.
The Shaykh : We have the hadith. We have the hadith present, and in it there is a contradiction. There is a contradiction.
The questioner : That is, they differed regarding the meaning of the hadith itself.
The Shaykh : Well, now...
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : ... whether it is both of them or riba.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : If I sell this for ten cash or for twenty on credit, is it two sales or one sale?
The questioner : One sale.
The Shaykh : One sale?
The questioner : No, two sales.
The Shaykh : No, absolutely not, it is one sale, because... either cash for ten or credit for twenty.
The questioner : No, because it restricts the buyer.
The Shaykh : Absolutely not, there is no restriction; this is an expansion for him, which is better than saying, for example, one hundred cash or two hundred on credit, because now he has been given a choice, and it is known that giving a choice is a means of making things easy.
The Shaykh : Which one is it?
The questioner : "I sold you this commodity for such-and-such cash, and for more than that by such-and-such." It is established from Ibn 'Abbas and Ibn Mas'ud that they interpreted it with this interpretation.
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And the Shaykh al-Islam interpreted it in another place... the narration...
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : And it is established from Imam Ahmad...
The Shaykh : Yes, all of this contradicts the apparent meaning of the hadith. It contradicts the apparent meaning of the hadith.
The questioner : Well, how...
The Shaykh : And the Shaykh al-Islam (may Allah have mercy on him) interpreted it, quoting from his student Ibn al-Qayyim in *Tahdhib al-Sunan*, because he interpreted it in this way.
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : I say that the interpretation of the Companion...
The Shaykh : I say there is a problem with it, as long as we have the hadith...
The questioner : And no one is known to have opposed them.
The Shaykh : We have the hadith. We have the hadith present, and in it there is a contradiction. There is a contradiction.
The questioner : That is, they differed regarding the meaning of the hadith itself.
The Shaykh : Well, now...
The questioner : ...
The Shaykh : ... whether it is both of them or riba.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh : If I sell this for ten cash or for twenty on credit, is it two sales or one sale?
The questioner : One sale.
The Shaykh : One sale?
The questioner : No, two sales.
The Shaykh : No, absolutely not, it is one sale, because... either cash for ten or credit for twenty.
The questioner : No, because it restricts the buyer.
The Shaykh : Absolutely not, there is no restriction; this is an expansion for him, which is better than saying, for example, one hundred cash or two hundred on credit, because now he has been given a choice, and it is known that giving a choice is a means of making things easy.