Explanation of the Book: The Beginning of Revelation, Faith, and Knowledge-09b
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The reader: Abu al-Qasim Khalid ibn Khali, the judge of Homs, narrated to us, saying: Muhammad ibn Harb narrated to us, saying: Al-Awza'i narrated to us, saying: Al-Zuhri informed us from 'Ubayd Allah ibn 'Abd Allah ibn 'Utbah ibn Mas'ud from Ibn 'Abbas
The Shaykh : This hadith has been discussed previously, but in the chain it says, "he said," "he said," "Al-Awza'i informed us," and so on. Is "he said" different from "narrated to us," or is it the same but with different wording? This relates to the chain of narration. It is possible that he said this is a difference in wording, and that one may say "informed us" or "narrated to us" or "he said." It is also possible to distinguish between "narrated to us" and "he said" in that "narrated to us" may imply that the scholar intended for the student to hear it so that the student could narrate from him, whereas "he said" would be something he said in a gathering without intending for that specific person to hear it. He did not mention anything on this point. Yes, what does he say?
The student: Al-Awza'i in the narration of al-Asil
The Shaykh : Yes, and the narration of this...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : I mean, he only mentioned the manuscript, yes.
The questioner : ...؟
The Shaykh : No, well, the point in this hadith among the benefits is that the prophets forget just as people forget, because Musa (peace and blessings be upon him) said to Khidr,[Al-Kahf 18:73] and here is the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) saying: Sahih Muslim 572j This forgetting is part of human nature, and whoever claims that the prophets do not forget is ignorant, because the Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) explicitly said: Sahih Muslim 572j And it is not mentioned that he said: This is weak, this is weak. The Messenger forgets because he is human, yes.
That he and al-Harith ibn Qays ibn Husayn al-Fazari disputed regarding the companion of Musa, so Abu ibn Ka'b passed by them, and Ibn 'Abbas called him and said: "I disputed with this companion of mine regarding the companion of Musa who asked for the way to meet him. Have you heard the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) mention his affair?" Abu said: "Yes, I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) mention his affair. He said: 'While Musa was with a group of the Children of Israel, a man came to him and said: "Do you know anyone who is more knowledgeable than you?" Musa said: "No." So Allah, Mighty and Majestic, revealed to Musa: "Yes, our servant Khidr." He asked for the way to meet him, so Allah made the fish a sign for him, and it was said to him: "When you lose the fish, return, for you will meet him." So Musa (peace and blessings be upon him) followed the track of the fish in the sea. Then the young man of Musa said to Musa: "Do you see when we took shelter at the rock? I forgot the fish, and nothing made me forget it except Satan, that I should mention it." Musa said: "That is what we were seeking." So they returned on their tracks, and they found Khidr. And what happened between them is what Allah related in His Book."
أنه تمارى هو والحر بن قيس بن حصن الفزاري في صاحب موسى فمر بهما أبي بن كعب فدعاه ابن عباس فقال: إني تماريت أنا وصاحبي هذا في صاحب موسى الذي سأل السبيل إلى لقيه هل سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يذكر شأنه فقال أبي: نعم سمعت النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يذكر شأنه يقول: بينما موسى في ملإ من بني إسرائيل إذ جاءه رجل فقال: أتعلم أحدًا أعلم منك قال موسى: لا فأوحى الله عز وجل إلى موسى بلى عبدنا خضر فسأل السبيل إلى لقيه فجعل الله له الحوت آيةً وقيل له إذا فقدت الحوت فارجع فإنك ستلقاه فكان موسى صلى الله عليه يتبع أثر الحوت في البحر فقال فتى موسى لموسى :أرأيت إذ أوينا إلى الصخرة فإني نسيت الحوت وما أنسانيه إلا الشيطان أن أذكره قال موسى ذلك ما كنا نبغي فارتدا على آثارهما قصصًا فوجدا خضرًا فكان من شأنهما ما قص الله في كتابهThe Shaykh : This hadith has been discussed previously, but in the chain it says, "he said," "he said," "Al-Awza'i informed us," and so on. Is "he said" different from "narrated to us," or is it the same but with different wording? This relates to the chain of narration. It is possible that he said this is a difference in wording, and that one may say "informed us" or "narrated to us" or "he said." It is also possible to distinguish between "narrated to us" and "he said" in that "narrated to us" may imply that the scholar intended for the student to hear it so that the student could narrate from him, whereas "he said" would be something he said in a gathering without intending for that specific person to hear it. He did not mention anything on this point. Yes, what does he say?
The student: Al-Awza'i in the narration of al-Asil
The Shaykh : Yes, and the narration of this...
The student: ...
The Shaykh : I mean, he only mentioned the manuscript, yes.
The questioner : ...؟
The Shaykh : No, well, the point in this hadith among the benefits is that the prophets forget just as people forget, because Musa (peace and blessings be upon him) said to Khidr,