If a man agrees with the one who advanced him money on the price of the goods, is that permissible?
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The questioner : A man needed money, so he went to another and said, "Give me a thousand riyals on the condition that I give you a qirrah of corn or wheat after six months," and they agreed on the price. Is this method one of the forms of salam?
The Shaykh : What do you say about it?
The questioner : Yes, it is salam.
The Shaykh : This is salam.
The questioner : They agreed on the price.
The Shaykh : Yes, no. From now on.
The questioner : Perhaps in the season.
The Shaykh : Yes, perhaps in the season it will be more or less, and this is the reason it was permitted, because the one dealing in riba profits in every case.
The questioner : I mean, it may increase or decrease.
The Shaykh : As for this, it may increase or decrease, and for this reason, people now refuse to engage in this transaction... I don't know, I am afraid I will lose.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, there is no objection to this, yes?
The questioner : Salam, O Shaykh, salam, I mean, if the price is not the price of today?
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : No...
The Shaykh : No, it must, for example, now, of course, the price must decrease; it is necessary.
The questioner : But in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), it did not decrease.
The Shaykh : It is not necessary for this to be known by necessity; is the sale of cash like the deferred sale?
The questioner : I mean, is it not said that... in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).
The Shaykh : No, it is not said. The original principle is that the fitrah is one. I mean, I distinguish between a person who says, "I want to give you the consideration now, the sold item," and a person who says, "After a year." Is there a problem or not?
The questioner : Who said that the goods are returned in the time of the Messenger of Allah due to the difficulty of obtaining them... in the generality of the issue?
The Shaykh : Okay, no... rare are the currencies, currencies are few, and for this reason they use goods, but everyone knows the difference between a deferred sale and a spot sale. If we estimate that the sa' is a dirham now, the deferred sale must be two sa' for a dirham, it must be, just like the price, yes?
The Shaykh : What do you say about it?
The questioner : Yes, it is salam.
The Shaykh : This is salam.
The questioner : They agreed on the price.
The Shaykh : Yes, no. From now on.
The questioner : Perhaps in the season.
The Shaykh : Yes, perhaps in the season it will be more or less, and this is the reason it was permitted, because the one dealing in riba profits in every case.
The questioner : I mean, it may increase or decrease.
The Shaykh : As for this, it may increase or decrease, and for this reason, people now refuse to engage in this transaction... I don't know, I am afraid I will lose.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, there is no objection to this, yes?
The questioner : Salam, O Shaykh, salam, I mean, if the price is not the price of today?
The Shaykh : ... .
The questioner : No...
The Shaykh : No, it must, for example, now, of course, the price must decrease; it is necessary.
The questioner : But in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him), it did not decrease.
The Shaykh : It is not necessary for this to be known by necessity; is the sale of cash like the deferred sale?
The questioner : I mean, is it not said that... in the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him).
The Shaykh : No, it is not said. The original principle is that the fitrah is one. I mean, I distinguish between a person who says, "I want to give you the consideration now, the sold item," and a person who says, "After a year." Is there a problem or not?
The questioner : Who said that the goods are returned in the time of the Messenger of Allah due to the difficulty of obtaining them... in the generality of the issue?
The Shaykh : Okay, no... rare are the currencies, currencies are few, and for this reason they use goods, but everyone knows the difference between a deferred sale and a spot sale. If we estimate that the sa' is a dirham now, the deferred sale must be two sa' for a dirham, it must be, just like the price, yes?