The discussion regarding the issue of explicit and implicit proposals in marriage.
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The Shaykh : In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the worlds, and may Allah send prayers and blessings upon our Prophet Muhammad, and upon his family and all his Companions.
When is explicit and implicit proposal forbidden?
The questioner : A woman in the waiting period from a husband other than her current husband.
The Shaykh : A woman in the waiting period from a husband other than her current husband. Okay, secondly?
The questioner : A woman divorced by three revocable divorces.
The Shaykh : For a woman divorced by three revocable divorces, explicit and implicit proposal is forbidden to her husband. For a woman divorced by three, it is forbidden specifically to her husband. For a woman in the waiting period from a husband other than her current husband, explicit and implicit proposal is forbidden. Now, when is implicit proposal permissible without explicit proposal?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Your brother and colleague says that implicit and explicit proposal is forbidden to anyone other than the husband. I am asking, I say, when is implicit proposal permissible without explicit proposal?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : From whom?
The questioner : From the husband.
The Shaykh : From the husband?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : From someone other than the husband? Glory be to Allah. Be sure. Implicit proposal without explicit proposal.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Which woman in the waiting period?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Which divorce?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Revocable or irrevocable?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Wrong, you did not review, Sami. Yes, if this is the result of the review, what do you say if she was not taken back? The brother leaning on the door? Does he understand Arabic?
The questioner : But he is new.
The Shaykh : New? Okay, yes. When is explicit proposal forbidden without implicit proposal?
The questioner : Explicit proposal?
The Shaykh : Without implicit proposal.
The questioner : A woman divorced by someone other than her husband.
The Shaykh : Meaning, she proposes to the man?
The questioner : No, she makes it explicit, it must be...
The Shaykh : A woman divorced by someone other than her husband. Okay.
The questioner : A woman divorced.
The Shaykh : Wait, and others?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, do not contradict, tell me, a woman divorced, whether by such and such or by such and such, so that we know you intended the general case?
The questioner : A woman divorced by three by someone other than her husband, it is forbidden...
The Shaykh : And by less than three?
The questioner : By less than three, this is...
The Shaykh : Divorced by less than three?
The questioner : It is forbidden...
The Shaykh : For example, for 'Awad, is she not divorced for 'Awad?
The questioner : It is also forbidden from someone other than her husband.
The Shaykh : Okay, and others?
The questioner : A woman in the waiting period due to death.
The Shaykh : Correct, a woman in the waiting period due to death or due to life, and she is divorced, whether by three divorces, or for a price, or annulled, or one whose marriage contract was proven invalid, or similar to that, clear? For these, what is forbidden?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Without implicit proposal, what is the evidence?
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He:[Al-Baqarah 2:233]
The Shaykh : The evidence, the evidence? Speak, speak, hey?
The questioner :[Al-Baqarah 2:233] ..
The Shaykh : What is the evidence?
The questioner : The verse.
The Shaykh : The evidence? You said the evidence is His saying, Exalted is He.
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He.
The Shaykh : Good, "His saying" with the nominative case.
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He:[Al-Baqarah 2:235]
The Shaykh : Well done, may Allah bless you. And when is implicit and explicit proposal permissible?
The questioner : Implicit and explicit proposal is permissible to her husband during her waiting period.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : If her husband has not divorced her.
The Shaykh : If he has not divorced her, she is in a revocable waiting period.
The questioner : No, for the one who divorced her, explicit and implicit proposal is permissible to the one who divorced her, if he divorced her by less than three.
The Shaykh : Well done, correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Yes, implicit and explicit proposal is permissible to the one who divorced her by less than three. Okay, so implicit and explicit proposal is not permissible, this is one. And implicit and explicit proposal is permissible, this is two. And implicit proposal is permissible without explicit proposal, this is how many? Three. Remaining in the logical division, when is explicit proposal permissible without implicit proposal? ...?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : When is explicit proposal permissible without implicit proposal? It does not exist? What do you say, people?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : When is explicit proposal permissible without implicit proposal? Glory be to Allah, you are quick to forget.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Do not contradict, I say by logic, I speak by the Shari'ah. I say the logical division is four, we mentioned three and their rulings. Now this is the fourth: the permissibility of explicit proposal without implicit proposal.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Explanation or the text of the speech? Do you answer this or not?
The questioner : It is not permissible by the Shari'ah, it does not occur, meaning.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not possible for us to say that explicit proposal is permissible without implicit proposal. Why? Because if explicit proposal is permissible, then implicit proposal is all the more so. Complete. May Allah bless you. We begin now a new lesson.
When is explicit and implicit proposal forbidden?
The questioner : A woman in the waiting period from a husband other than her current husband.
The Shaykh : A woman in the waiting period from a husband other than her current husband. Okay, secondly?
The questioner : A woman divorced by three revocable divorces.
The Shaykh : For a woman divorced by three revocable divorces, explicit and implicit proposal is forbidden to her husband. For a woman divorced by three, it is forbidden specifically to her husband. For a woman in the waiting period from a husband other than her current husband, explicit and implicit proposal is forbidden. Now, when is implicit proposal permissible without explicit proposal?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Your brother and colleague says that implicit and explicit proposal is forbidden to anyone other than the husband. I am asking, I say, when is implicit proposal permissible without explicit proposal?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : From whom?
The questioner : From the husband.
The Shaykh : From the husband?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : From someone other than the husband? Glory be to Allah. Be sure. Implicit proposal without explicit proposal.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Which woman in the waiting period?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Which divorce?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Revocable or irrevocable?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Wrong, you did not review, Sami. Yes, if this is the result of the review, what do you say if she was not taken back? The brother leaning on the door? Does he understand Arabic?
The questioner : But he is new.
The Shaykh : New? Okay, yes. When is explicit proposal forbidden without implicit proposal?
The questioner : Explicit proposal?
The Shaykh : Without implicit proposal.
The questioner : A woman divorced by someone other than her husband.
The Shaykh : Meaning, she proposes to the man?
The questioner : No, she makes it explicit, it must be...
The Shaykh : A woman divorced by someone other than her husband. Okay.
The questioner : A woman divorced.
The Shaykh : Wait, and others?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Okay, do not contradict, tell me, a woman divorced, whether by such and such or by such and such, so that we know you intended the general case?
The questioner : A woman divorced by three by someone other than her husband, it is forbidden...
The Shaykh : And by less than three?
The questioner : By less than three, this is...
The Shaykh : Divorced by less than three?
The questioner : It is forbidden...
The Shaykh : For example, for 'Awad, is she not divorced for 'Awad?
The questioner : It is also forbidden from someone other than her husband.
The Shaykh : Okay, and others?
The questioner : A woman in the waiting period due to death.
The Shaykh : Correct, a woman in the waiting period due to death or due to life, and she is divorced, whether by three divorces, or for a price, or annulled, or one whose marriage contract was proven invalid, or similar to that, clear? For these, what is forbidden?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Without implicit proposal, what is the evidence?
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He:
there is no blame upon you
لا جناح عليكمThe Shaykh : The evidence, the evidence? Speak, speak, hey?
The questioner :
there is no blame upon you
لا جناح عليكمThe Shaykh : What is the evidence?
The questioner : The verse.
The Shaykh : The evidence? You said the evidence is His saying, Exalted is He.
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He.
The Shaykh : Good, "His saying" with the nominative case.
The questioner : His saying, Exalted is He:
There is no blame upon you for that to which you [indirectly] allude concerning a proposal to women
ولا جناح عليكم فيما عرّضتم به من خطبة النساءThe Shaykh : Well done, may Allah bless you. And when is implicit and explicit proposal permissible?
The questioner : Implicit and explicit proposal is permissible to her husband during her waiting period.
The Shaykh : What?
The questioner : If her husband has not divorced her.
The Shaykh : If he has not divorced her, she is in a revocable waiting period.
The questioner : No, for the one who divorced her, explicit and implicit proposal is permissible to the one who divorced her, if he divorced her by less than three.
The Shaykh : Well done, correct?
The questioner : Correct.
The Shaykh : Yes, implicit and explicit proposal is permissible to the one who divorced her by less than three. Okay, so implicit and explicit proposal is not permissible, this is one. And implicit and explicit proposal is permissible, this is two. And implicit proposal is permissible without explicit proposal, this is how many? Three. Remaining in the logical division, when is explicit proposal permissible without implicit proposal? ...?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : When is explicit proposal permissible without implicit proposal? It does not exist? What do you say, people?
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : When is explicit proposal permissible without implicit proposal? Glory be to Allah, you are quick to forget.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Do not contradict, I say by logic, I speak by the Shari'ah. I say the logical division is four, we mentioned three and their rulings. Now this is the fourth: the permissibility of explicit proposal without implicit proposal.
The questioner : ... .
The Shaykh : Explanation or the text of the speech? Do you answer this or not?
The questioner : It is not permissible by the Shari'ah, it does not occur, meaning.
The Shaykh : Yes?
The questioner : It is not permissible.
The Shaykh : It is not possible for us to say that explicit proposal is permissible without implicit proposal. Why? Because if explicit proposal is permissible, then implicit proposal is all the more so. Complete. May Allah bless you. We begin now a new lesson.