The Ruling on Reciting Dhikr Using Date Stones, a Misbaha, or the Like
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Question:
Is the hadith of Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas authentic (that he entered with the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) upon a woman who had date stones or pebbles in front of her, and she was using them to recite dhikr)?
Answer:
I do not recall any criticism of its chain, but the virtue of dhikr is sufficient, and the authentic hadiths indicating this matter are sufficient.
The student: Regarding its takhrij, may Allah reward you?
The Shaykh: Do you have the takhrij for it? The hadith: "Subhan Allah, as many as He has created in the heavens..."?
The student: The Shaykh is Salim al-Hilali.
The Shaykh: What did he say about it?
The student: He said: Weak. It was narrated by Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi with a weak chain. In it is Khuzaymah, who narrated it from A'ishah bint Talhah, and he is unknown. The original of the hadith is in Muslim from the hadith of Juwayriyah, without mentioning date stones or pebbles; which indicates the anomaly of this wording.
The Shaykh: The hadith of Juwayriyah in Muslim is: "Subhan Allah, as many as He has created, Subhan Allah, the weight of His Throne, Subhan Allah, the ink of His words," three times. In any case, increasing the remembrance of Allah is required.
Q: Regarding the mention of date stones and pebbles?
The Shaykh: There is no harm in it. There is no harm in reciting dhikr with date stones, beads, or a misbaha, but the fingers are better.
Is the hadith of Sa'd ibn Abi Waqqas authentic (that he entered with the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) upon a woman who had date stones or pebbles in front of her, and she was using them to recite dhikr)?
Answer:
I do not recall any criticism of its chain, but the virtue of dhikr is sufficient, and the authentic hadiths indicating this matter are sufficient.
The student: Regarding its takhrij, may Allah reward you?
The Shaykh: Do you have the takhrij for it? The hadith: "Subhan Allah, as many as He has created in the heavens..."?
The student: The Shaykh is Salim al-Hilali.
The Shaykh: What did he say about it?
The student: He said: Weak. It was narrated by Abu Dawud and al-Tirmidhi with a weak chain. In it is Khuzaymah, who narrated it from A'ishah bint Talhah, and he is unknown. The original of the hadith is in Muslim from the hadith of Juwayriyah, without mentioning date stones or pebbles; which indicates the anomaly of this wording.
The Shaykh: The hadith of Juwayriyah in Muslim is: "Subhan Allah, as many as He has created, Subhan Allah, the weight of His Throne, Subhan Allah, the ink of His words," three times. In any case, increasing the remembrance of Allah is required.
Q: Regarding the mention of date stones and pebbles?
The Shaykh: There is no harm in it. There is no harm in reciting dhikr with date stones, beads, or a misbaha, but the fingers are better.
Source
binbaz.org.sa
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