What is the ruling on jihad if we see there are some realistic indicators that confirm to us that the political game is ongoing and real, and that it is in fact a trap for those supporting the Afghans?

The Shaykh : Yes?

The questioner: All right, my professor, if we see there are some realistic indicators that confirm to us that the political game is ongoing and real, and that it is in fact a trap, and these indicators are tangible, does this change the religious ruling?

The Shaykh: A trap for whom, my brother?

The questioner : To the Muslims.

The Shaykh: Which Muslims, those outside or those inside?

The questioner: Those outside.

The Shaykh: Those outside, it is not a trap for them at all.

The questioner : Why?

The Shaykh: Those outside will remain as they are, but as for those inside, you say it is a trap for them, and I tell you it is a trap for them.

The questioner: It is clear that it is a trap for them, it is well known.

The Shaykh: How are those outside a trap for them? Bring it up so we can see? Allow me a moment.

The questioner: First of all...

The Shaykh: Allow me a moment. If it is a trap for those outside, how can it not be a trap for those outside?! "By their opposites, things become clear." If it is a trap for those outside, how can the action be such that it is not a trap for those outside? Is it by not supporting our Afghan brothers?! Let me repeat my point?

The questioner: Do you understand? I understand now.

The Shaykh: All right, if you understand, we ask for the answer.

The questioner: But again, but...

The Shaykh: The answer: It is a mistake. Your statement that it is a trap for those outside is a mistake. The answer is that you retract this, unless you have an answer to what I told you: If it is a trap for those outside, for people like us, the Saudis, the Jordanians, the Syrians, the Egyptians, and the entire Islamic world, what is the way to ensure it is not a trap for us? Is it that we do not help our Afghan brothers?! Is that the way? I do not think you would say that.

The questioner: The way is known. All right, my professor, let me mention the names of the indicators that just came to mind.

The Shaykh: No, never mind, think about the answer to this trap, hehehehe.

The questioner: Give us a chance.

The Shaykh: Give him a chance to answer.

The questioner: I say it is a trap, O Shaykh, for those outside and those inside. As for those outside, those in the diaspora, the door is opened for them to enter.

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The questioner: ... Wait, and a withdrawal occurs by the Russians, or an inability to fight, as a deception so that everyone enters, and then when everyone enters, both those outside and those inside, they are destroyed, and this...

The Shaykh: It is imagination upon imagination.

The questioner: It is not imagination.

The Shaykh: You imagine, O Shaykh, that if all the Muslims entered that land, the land would become a trap for them? You imagine that if all the Muslims performed their duty, that land would become a trap for them? By Allah, this is the height of imagination.

The questioner: I do not imagine this, this is not realistic.

The Shaykh: Why is it not realistic? Because of these ideas.

The questioner: No, O Shaykh, because of the political game.

The Shaykh: But the political game: Is the political game aimed at discouraging Muslims from helping the Afghans? O people, fear Allah. Is the aim of this political game to dampen the spirits of the Muslims leaving Afghanistan to help them in every sense of help, in body, in material, in knowledge, and so on? Is the effect of this political game to dampen these people, or to encourage them to participate with the Afghans in jihad?! Say, O people, fear Allah. Say, does the political game mean that Muslims respond to the Afghans and become helpers to them, or that they are negligent in helping them? What is wrong with you? By Allah, I have not heard tonight a statement further from the Shari'ah and further from logic than such things. Then I return to say to you: I asked what is the cure so that we are outside the trap? What is it? This is a question for the professor Ali here, who stood before it confused, and you took upon yourself to answer it. What is the answer?

The questioner: The cure is that before we judge the people, we judge ourselves and say that jihad is obligatory upon the ruler before the ruled.

The Shaykh: "She went east and I went west *** How great is the difference between east and west." This is the problem.

The questioner: If that is the case, then for example, if the people of Madinah left!

The Shaykh: O Shaykh, may Allah bless you, you are hoping: What is my question and what is the summary of your answer.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh: I say: In order not to fall into the trap, what is the action?

The questioner: The action is that we prepare.

The Shaykh: That we unite?!

The questioner: That we prepare fully.

The Shaykh: Is there disagreement about this action?

The questioner: No, there is no disagreement.

The Shaykh: So then, we have a disagreement now.

The questioner: Before we enter the battle, we prepare, this is the action.

The Shaykh: There is no power nor strength except with Allah.

The questioner: What is the preparation?

The Shaykh : How?

The questioner: I say, what is the preparation that is required before entering the battle?

The Shaykh: Go ahead.

The questioner: The preparation is when we approach those who are responsible for us and demand that they send the trained army before us, and we are behind them.

The Shaykh: "Like one who seeks refuge from the scorching heat in the fire."

The questioner: And if we do not do this, we have done nothing.

The Shaykh: All right, if you do this, is the obligation lifted from you?

The questioner : Yes?

The Shaykh: If you do this, and you know that this action neither advances nor delays, is the obligation lifted?

The questioner: I mean, if the rulers do not respond!

The Shaykh: Is the obligation lifted?

The questioner: I understand regarding this, I do not know, O Shaykh, I do not know, what do you say?

The Shaykh: And more than this statement?

The questioner: Is it lifted or not lifted?

The Shaykh: It is not lifted, O Shaykh, may Allah guide you and me. Subhan Allah, but I beg you, Professor Asim, repeat the question: What does he do?

The questioner: No, actually, I intended!

The Shaykh: Therefore, I feel that there is something still.

The questioner: I seem to have understood from the words ofThe Shaykh : Abdullah previously that those who went are thrown immediately into battle without prior training.

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner: But I seem to have understood it this way from his words.

The Shaykh: Good.

The questioner: So I intended with the last question what relates to this topic, but actually, the training is taking place, our Shaykh.

The Shaykh: No, allow me, we askThe Shaykh : do you agree with the doctor's statement that the training is a reality?

The questioner: A reality in general?

The Shaykh: Yes, what is your problem, you understand the general, you are not one who says it is general.
The student: The one who goes is not thrown into the battle immediately.

The Shaykh: This is a natural thing.

The questioner: He is led through stages: .

The Shaykh: Of course.
The student: First: training outside the battlefield, then training at points inside Afghanistan before he enters the battlefield, then at a higher line so he does not enter for the first time.

The Shaykh: This is a natural thing.

The questioner: The important thing is that he passes through four stages; if they find stability, he enters and is thrown into the battle, otherwise he does not enter. They are stronger than the Arabs, unfortunately, because they know that the Arabs are far from courage in these matters.

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.

The questioner: They pass through stages and certain training.

The Shaykh: But this will not solve the problem forThe Shaykh : Abdullah, in my opinion, will it solve the problem?

The questioner: No.

The Shaykh: It will not solve the problem.

The questioner: For a certain category.