Discussion on the jurisprudence of reality and that it is one of the causes of disagreement in Saudi Arabia during the Gulf crisis.
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The Shaykh : Yes.
The questioner : For example, they talk about politics and call it the jurisprudence of reality. This is the jurisprudence of reality... this is necessary.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is your opinion on the jurisprudence of reality that you heard from them?
The questioner : I heard from them that it is necessary for the ummah to have, I mean, someone who is knowledgeable about the reality. Some of them, not all of them. Some of the da'is are knowledgeable about the reality of the Muslim ummah or what is happening to it, and this is... and not all the committed ones or all the Muslims need to be knowledgeable about this knowledge.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : This is what I understood from them.
The Shaykh : And every scholar must be?
The questioner : No, not every scholar; it is specialization. The principle of specialization, how is it?
The Shaykh : Okay, who said it this way?
The questioner : The other side said it, your student, of course.
The Shaykh: Who?
The questioner : "Rabie"?
The Shaykh : How from the other side? "Rabie" does not say it is the jurisprudence of reality, may Allah guide you.
The questioner : No, it is not the jurisprudence of reality; he says it in the field of specialization.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh : We are asking you now: who says it is the jurisprudence of reality?
The questioner : His name, his pronunciation, I mean, is "Safar al-Hawali".
The Shaykh : Okay, and anything else?
The questioner : And "Salman al-Oudah".
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : In a lecture I did not hear by Dr. "Nasser al-Omar".
The Shaykh : Okay, do these people say that the jurisprudence of reality means specialization, and that a scholar can be a scholar while he does not know the reality, and does not understand the reality?
The questioner: By Allah.
Another questioner : A scholar is not a scholar unless he understands the reality.
The Shaykh : Yes, I am asking him.
The questioner : No, on the contrary, he does not say that, I mean, he does not say... a scholar can be a scholar regardless of whether he understood the reality or not, but the one who understands the reality completes it.
The Shaykh : Okay, and what does the other side say? Now it is "Rabie's" turn.
The questioner : The Shaykh "Rabie", I heard it from him in a lecture in the Eastern Province.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, excuse me, leave the details aside, give a way for the women.
...
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: As you wish.
Another questioner : May Allah make it better, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : If Allah wills.
Another questioner : If Allah wills ... .
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good, may Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : Now the question has reached "Rabie" in the Eastern Province.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: How?
Another questioner : "Rabie" in the Eastern Province gave a lecture.
The questioner : He gave a lecture in the Eastern Province, he gave it.
Another questioner : The Shaykh Rabie.
The questioner : He says it is necessary to specialize if there are ten in the ummah who undertake this knowledge, it is not a condition for the rest to undertake it.
The Shaykh : What is the disagreement left regarding the jurisprudence of reality between the two groups?
The questioner : I have no knowledge, I swear to Allah I have no knowledge about this point, I mean, I do not know what the reason is?
The questioner : They are equal, our Shaykh, like this.
The questioner : I mean, the truth is one is perplexed, and then the truth is, it is not hidden from you, O Shaykh, that in the fitnah that the ummah lived through in the past period, this and that, it is not hidden from you who spoke the truth in a time when the truth was spoken, the extent of the common people's attachment in general; so what about the students of knowledge? I mean, it is not hidden from you that in this, whoever says the word of truth is rare, especially in the region that lived through the fitnah and the country that faced the fitnah, exactly, so they found one who says the truth; they put him on their heads more than anyone else, frankly, regardless of whether he has objections or errors... but your question - unfortunately - I was not able to answer it.
The Shaykh : It appears you do not have a follower.
The questioner : No, in the end, I actually did not follow; because I got tired of it like this, I mean, the truth is one fears for, I mean, one fears for his heart because there are some tapes, O Shaykh, with very violent responses in them.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is the reason for it?
The questioner : I mean, I listen to a lecture of yours, a lesson of yours on a specific topic, and I find that you fell into a specific violation; I take this violation that you fell into and I come and say.
The Shaykh : You keep going around it.
The questioner : And I come and present a tape and say that I responded to so-and-so, he fell into the violation, and this violation, and I bring a recording and record it and put a tape and then I keep going around it, I repeat it two or three times, and I say this one says this, who says, I don't know what, and and and, I mean, words, I swear to Allah, that truly make hearts sick, O Shaykh, I swear to Allah; I mean, praise be to Allah that the statement was issued in its time, even if it was delayed, but Allah is the helper, O Shaykh.
I really want to ask a question on the topic of the, no, on the topic in general of the da'is now.
The Shaykh : But with your question, you do not want to benefit from me.
The questioner : I did not benefit you, except that I benefit from you.
The Shaykh : But[Ar-Rahman 55:60].
The questioner : We are not equal, we are not equal between us.
The Shaykh : How, my Shaykh?
The questioner : There is a difference between me and you.
The Shaykh : There is a difference in terms of knowledge, but you are more knowledgeable than me about your reality.
The questioner : Because some of them get angry at the reality, do not mention the reality [The questioner laughs!].
The Shaykh : The jurisprudence of reality.
The questioner : Do you see, Shaykh?
The questioner : For example, they talk about politics and call it the jurisprudence of reality. This is the jurisprudence of reality... this is necessary.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is your opinion on the jurisprudence of reality that you heard from them?
The questioner : I heard from them that it is necessary for the ummah to have, I mean, someone who is knowledgeable about the reality. Some of them, not all of them. Some of the da'is are knowledgeable about the reality of the Muslim ummah or what is happening to it, and this is... and not all the committed ones or all the Muslims need to be knowledgeable about this knowledge.
The Shaykh : Hmm.
The questioner : This is what I understood from them.
The Shaykh : And every scholar must be?
The questioner : No, not every scholar; it is specialization. The principle of specialization, how is it?
The Shaykh : Okay, who said it this way?
The questioner : The other side said it, your student, of course.
The Shaykh: Who?
The questioner : "Rabie"?
The Shaykh : How from the other side? "Rabie" does not say it is the jurisprudence of reality, may Allah guide you.
The questioner : No, it is not the jurisprudence of reality; he says it in the field of specialization.
The Shaykh: May Allah guide you.
The questioner: Amen.
The Shaykh : We are asking you now: who says it is the jurisprudence of reality?
The questioner : His name, his pronunciation, I mean, is "Safar al-Hawali".
The Shaykh : Okay, and anything else?
The questioner : And "Salman al-Oudah".
The Shaykh: All right.
The questioner : In a lecture I did not hear by Dr. "Nasser al-Omar".
The Shaykh : Okay, do these people say that the jurisprudence of reality means specialization, and that a scholar can be a scholar while he does not know the reality, and does not understand the reality?
The questioner: By Allah.
Another questioner : A scholar is not a scholar unless he understands the reality.
The Shaykh : Yes, I am asking him.
The questioner : No, on the contrary, he does not say that, I mean, he does not say... a scholar can be a scholar regardless of whether he understood the reality or not, but the one who understands the reality completes it.
The Shaykh : Okay, and what does the other side say? Now it is "Rabie's" turn.
The questioner : The Shaykh "Rabie", I heard it from him in a lecture in the Eastern Province.
The Shaykh : Excuse me, excuse me, leave the details aside, give a way for the women.
...
Another questioner : ... .
The Shaykh: As you wish.
Another questioner : May Allah make it better, if Allah wills.
The Shaykh : If Allah wills.
Another questioner : If Allah wills ... .
The Shaykh : May Allah reward you with good, may Allah reward you with good.
The questioner : Now the question has reached "Rabie" in the Eastern Province.
The questioner : Yes.
The Shaykh: How?
Another questioner : "Rabie" in the Eastern Province gave a lecture.
The questioner : He gave a lecture in the Eastern Province, he gave it.
Another questioner : The Shaykh Rabie.
The questioner : He says it is necessary to specialize if there are ten in the ummah who undertake this knowledge, it is not a condition for the rest to undertake it.
The Shaykh : What is the disagreement left regarding the jurisprudence of reality between the two groups?
The questioner : I have no knowledge, I swear to Allah I have no knowledge about this point, I mean, I do not know what the reason is?
The questioner : They are equal, our Shaykh, like this.
The questioner : I mean, the truth is one is perplexed, and then the truth is, it is not hidden from you, O Shaykh, that in the fitnah that the ummah lived through in the past period, this and that, it is not hidden from you who spoke the truth in a time when the truth was spoken, the extent of the common people's attachment in general; so what about the students of knowledge? I mean, it is not hidden from you that in this, whoever says the word of truth is rare, especially in the region that lived through the fitnah and the country that faced the fitnah, exactly, so they found one who says the truth; they put him on their heads more than anyone else, frankly, regardless of whether he has objections or errors... but your question - unfortunately - I was not able to answer it.
The Shaykh : It appears you do not have a follower.
The questioner : No, in the end, I actually did not follow; because I got tired of it like this, I mean, the truth is one fears for, I mean, one fears for his heart because there are some tapes, O Shaykh, with very violent responses in them.
The Shaykh : Okay, what is the reason for it?
The questioner : I mean, I listen to a lecture of yours, a lesson of yours on a specific topic, and I find that you fell into a specific violation; I take this violation that you fell into and I come and say.
The Shaykh : You keep going around it.
The questioner : And I come and present a tape and say that I responded to so-and-so, he fell into the violation, and this violation, and I bring a recording and record it and put a tape and then I keep going around it, I repeat it two or three times, and I say this one says this, who says, I don't know what, and and and, I mean, words, I swear to Allah, that truly make hearts sick, O Shaykh, I swear to Allah; I mean, praise be to Allah that the statement was issued in its time, even if it was delayed, but Allah is the helper, O Shaykh.
I really want to ask a question on the topic of the, no, on the topic in general of the da'is now.
The Shaykh : But with your question, you do not want to benefit from me.
The questioner : I did not benefit you, except that I benefit from you.
The Shaykh : But
Is the reward for good [anything] but good?
هَلْ جَزَاءُ الْإِحْسَانِ إِلَّا الْإِحْسَانُThe questioner : We are not equal, we are not equal between us.
The Shaykh : How, my Shaykh?
The questioner : There is a difference between me and you.
The Shaykh : There is a difference in terms of knowledge, but you are more knowledgeable than me about your reality.
The questioner : Because some of them get angry at the reality, do not mention the reality [The questioner laughs!].
The Shaykh : The jurisprudence of reality.
The questioner : Do you see, Shaykh?
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