What is your opinion regarding the disagreement that occurred during the Gulf crisis between two groups, one of which permitted seeking the assistance of disbelievers and the other forbade it?

The Shaykh : ... to know the truth.

The questioner : A disagreement, meaning between the Shaykhs of Medina and others?

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner : By Allah, O Shaykh, approximately before the crisis, before the Gulf crisis, the Iraqi invasion, there were two doubts; meaning it was not clear; meaning some of the Shaykhs who, yes, meaning they say: our methodology is on the correct and Salafi path, and so on, meaning they criticize some of the Shaykhs who are virtuous and truly Salafi, this right is said, that they, meaning they try to gather the youth in general on, meaning they try to instill in them the understanding of religion in general ... .
Meaning, in some of these years, we did not open the tapes ... from one of the Shaykhs who it is said: that these Shaykhs tried to distance the youth from the senior students of knowledge.

The Shaykh : Excuse me, this is a known thing, but what is the real disagreement between the two groups?

Another questioner : One ... disagreement.

The Shaykh : Are you finished?

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh: Go ahead, go ahead.

The questioner : I do not know, O our Shaykh, can you tolerate a second tape that I will put in, it will burn a little.
AndThe Shaykh : By Allah, I do not know how much the burning percentage is.

Another questioner : Is there a benefit ... ?

The questioner : Of course, there is a benefit.

Another questioner : If there is a benefit.

Another questioner : Of course, there is a benefit.

The Shaykh : Okay, in the name of Allah.
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The questioner : ... a file.

The Shaykh : Okay, do you have a file?

The questioner : Ah, I brought it with me.

Another questioner : ... .

Another questioner : Or instead, meaning the cooling, no need ... .

Another questioner : ... .

The Shaykh : But there is no need ... .

The questioner : No, this...

The Shaykh : How?

The questioner : This ... meaning it has movements.

The Shaykh : I mean a regular file; meaning you use the regular file now.

The questioner : My Shaykh, yes, it has a special method for smoothing ... .

Another questioner : A regular file ... .

Another questioner : This came from Abu Badr, O our Shaykh.

The Shaykh : Meaning like a carpenter.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : The wood needs, for example, two millimeters, the first millimeter he will not take with the soft file.

The questioner : It needs the regular file, then he smooths it.

The Shaykh : Yes.

The questioner : ... the Gulf people who were accused that they, meaning ... their word, meaning I think this reached you, that it was on the truth, meaning.

The Shaykh : My brother, did you pay attention to my question so that we do not waste your time?

The questioner : Yes, yes, no, we are not wasting my time, we are wasting your time now.

The Shaykh : Do not waste your time.

Another questioner : The Shaykh's time ... .

Another questioner : Okay, okay, your question: what is the cause of the disagreement?

The Shaykh : What are the points of disagreement between the two groups? We know that the two groups are not Muslim Brothers and Salafis; they are all Salafis.

The questioner : Salafis, yes.

The Shaykh : And all of them have one call, the Book and the Sunnah; what are the causes of the disagreement?
You mentioned earlier that these people issued a ruling on the Gulf issue like our ruling; that it is not permissible to seek the assistance of disbelievers, and those said: no; it is permissible, but is that not the cause of the disagreement?

The questioner : It is not that they said, O Shaykh, it is permissible and that is all.

The Shaykh : How?

The questioner : They did not say it and remain silent only, but they responded to those who issued this ruling, I do not mention your person, meaning there, they responded to each one, they responded with a severe and violent response, and each one on a tape, meaning they speak about it and respond to it and criticize it, in some of the errors that he fell into, and they are errors without doubt; meaning anyone makes a mistake, and they responded to some of them on the tapes, and this may be the reason for increasing the gap.
The other opposing side that issued the ruling of refusal in the Gulf did not respond with any words, meaning, he was silent, they issued a ruling of silence, until four or five months ago, so the news was reaching Shaykh Ibn Baz and the senior Shaykhs about this issue, and they were complaining about them and mentioning it to them, and no one was answering, until I remember one of the Shaykhs gave a lecture: "Until when will this disagreement be?"; meaning he is advising, we must make a mistake no matter what happens in any event beforehand, so after that, Shaykh Ibn Baz issued a statement, and I think this statement reached you.

The Shaykh: Yes.

The questioner : A statement, and he detailed this event in it, after that the situation calmed down; meaning in terms of ... it calmed down a little, meaning the statement was in its time and so on, but they, meaning they accuse, meaning truly they accuse the other Shaykhs that their affiliation is to a group I heard about a group.

The Shaykh : Sarrur.

The questioner : Sarur, and I truly listened to their tapes and words, meaning there is no proof, if there is proof, meaning even one would be reassured, meaning proof.

Another questioner : Material.

The questioner : Real material, but rather statements saying: that they incite the people against the rulers, or clarify; meaning I am asking a question, is it from the truth to clarify the violations of the Shari'ah, the violations that contradict the Shari'ah in the country - for example - any country or not?

The Shaykh : Keep your question.

The questioner : So I do not know, it seems that I did not clarify the picture to you much.

The Shaykh : Certainly, I want to know the causes of the disagreement between them; because this severe disagreement does not stop in the sense that the Ummah is divided into two parts; a part with these and a part with those because of the disagreement in an issue that occurred and ended, there must be other points; so I want to know because I do not live there.

The questioner : By Allah, the brothers who were with you, meaning, would clarify to you more, did you not ask them, O Shaykh?

The Shaykh : Keep your question.

The questioner : Waleed and others.

The Shaykh : And what is the difference between you and them?!

The questioner : No, they are more knowledgeable, meaning, and their experience is better.

The Shaykh : Yes, everyone according to his level, they are more or you are more? The important thing is that we want to benefit from you now.

The questioner : May Allah reward you with good, I wish we could benefit you.

The questioner : By Allah, according to my knowledge, this is the reason, meaning they argue, I do not know, meaning their argument is about their style in delivering their lectures; meaning most of them or the majority of them deliver scientific lectures, some are legal, and some are explanations of hadiths, and some are general lectures; does this mean it causes the disagreement?

The Shaykh : Keep your question.

The questioner : They became three, O Shaykh.

The Shaykh : What Allah willed!

The questioner : Is this warning finished?! Meaning, I truly did not find a main reason that creates the disagreement regarding this large gap.

The Shaykh : I did not find a reason.

The questioner : I did not find a reason, meaning if the disagreement, meaning they say that from the reasons, they say that they incite against the ruling, for example.

The Shaykh : He does not hear you, here.

The questioner : Erase the tape ... .

The Shaykh : ... the man is an employee, here.

The questioner : Perhaps not ... .