A discussion regarding a woman who was forced into marriage and fled from her husband's house.
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The questioner : That woman did not say, "Let him remove his cowardice from me." So, if the man is complete and has no cowardice, and the girl wants a wicked man... the father takes this man, or... "I will only marry you to this one."
The student: I attended with some of them, they are all good and decent. Perhaps some of our brothers here know the group, these people... the girl.
The student: Aggression is not met with aggression, O Shaykh.
Another student: Huh?
Another student: Aggression is not met with aggression.
Another student: ... he cut his skin from his skin.
Another student: A liar.
Another student: If he ties her skin to his skin.
Another student: May Allah bless you. She ran away from the house and went to al-Kharj.
Another student: Aggression is not met with aggression.
Another student: And all the people went into great danger, chasing after the girl, fearing that one of these outlaws would go and take her, and then throw her away as you see with crimes. So they said, "We are afraid of this. How is it, I mean?"
Another student: He gives her the choice.
Another student: What choice? No, no, it is a ruling. He said to him, "Look, I will judge between you. Either you complain to your relatives so the Shaykh sees it by force, and we have no business with it, or the judge rules according to what the judge rules, that is one. The second is that you take your right, all of it, so that not a single qirsh remains with them, do you understand? And the third is that we go and bring the girl now and force her family, her uncle and her mother, to bring her to you. But you must receive the girl from us safe, and you must deliver her safe. If she burns herself, if she runs away, if she jumps, you are responsible."
Another student: He has no policy.
Another student: They all have a policy.
Another student: By Allah, he wants a policy for this. This is like a gazelle coming from the desert; he wants to tame it a little.
Another student: Not always, O Shaykh.
Another student: There is a gazelle you can catch, and there is a gazelle you cannot catch; it escapes from you and you are unable to catch it.
The questioner : Is it permissible to force her?
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : Is it permissible to force her?
The Shaykh : No.
The questioner : And is this contract established...
Another questioner: People are dragged into Paradise with chains, is that correct?
The questioner : Not through this door.
Another questioner: Generally, if she says, "I want the wicked one," and this one comes, she says, "This is the one who does not pray."
The Shaykh : Where did you get the generality from?
The questioner : No, no, do not marry her to him.
The Shaykh : They are dragged with chains, and you dragged the hadith toward you with chains.
The student: He does not marry her to the wicked one, O Shaykh, but at the same time, he does not force her; he prevents her from marrying until she is satisfied with the righteous one.
Another student: This is the correct statement.
Another student: Yes, if he marries her to the wicked one, he becomes more wicked than her and more wicked than him; he becomes the wicked one himself.
Another student: He has the right to use his right of guardianship over her, so he does not marry her except to someone whose religion and character he approves of.
Another student: I am the judge, I swear to Allah, I am the judge. I said to him, "Either you take your whole right, do you hear, O Shaykh Abd al-Rahman?"
Another student : Yes, yes.
Another student: I said, "Either you take your right, that's it, and the girl has run away from you; she does not want you. She ran away at night from under the house."
Another student: The tent.
Another student: The tent, yes. And they go in cars to look for her. Their hearts were torn apart. They said, "Now, a drunkard or a criminal will find her, execute her, and throw her away." I said to him, "Either you take your right. Listen to my advice." He said, "And the second?" I said to him, "The second is that I am with you. You submit a petition to the Prince, and he will transfer you to... saying that the group married me and the girl is with them in the house, and they will bring you and them to... and the ruling there with the judge, no one enters, no one enters at all, not me and not you and not...
And the third is that the group likes you. The one who married you likes the man. By Allah, the man is good, noble, generous, brave, and kind. We do not praise anyone beyond what is due to Allah, but this is what I know of the man. The third, I said to him, "Now they will go and bring the girl, tie her up, and bring her to you, and deliver her to you safe. But look, you must hold onto the girl. Do not embarrass yourself. Do not let her run away... in her own person, you are responsible for her."
The Shaykh : This is not practical. This is not practical.
The student: He said, "I cannot. The man came out wiser than all of us. He said, 'No, by Allah, I cannot do this.'"
Another student: His pride in himself is very great. O Shaykh, if he were tested with one of this type.
Another student: Praise be to Allah who has spared us from what He has tested him with, my brother.
Another student: Say it like this. Say this, meaning you... for this matter. Perhaps he can bring her in and tame her. Say, "Not every gazelle can you handle."
Another student: He said, "Do you know, O Abu Saleh...
The Shaykh : ...
The student: But intentionally, O Shaykh...
Another student: He conceded, but Abd al-Rahman.
Another student: Huh?
Another student: The man has conceded, and Shaykh Abd al-Rahman is determined.
Another student: Praise be to Allah.
Another student: May Allah not make you a judge.
Another student: No, but he thinks that every man can tame this girl. First of all, this varies.
The student: I attended with some of them, they are all good and decent. Perhaps some of our brothers here know the group, these people... the girl.
The student: Aggression is not met with aggression, O Shaykh.
Another student: Huh?
Another student: Aggression is not met with aggression.
Another student: ... he cut his skin from his skin.
Another student: A liar.
Another student: If he ties her skin to his skin.
Another student: May Allah bless you. She ran away from the house and went to al-Kharj.
Another student: Aggression is not met with aggression.
Another student: And all the people went into great danger, chasing after the girl, fearing that one of these outlaws would go and take her, and then throw her away as you see with crimes. So they said, "We are afraid of this. How is it, I mean?"
Another student: He gives her the choice.
Another student: What choice? No, no, it is a ruling. He said to him, "Look, I will judge between you. Either you complain to your relatives so the Shaykh sees it by force, and we have no business with it, or the judge rules according to what the judge rules, that is one. The second is that you take your right, all of it, so that not a single qirsh remains with them, do you understand? And the third is that we go and bring the girl now and force her family, her uncle and her mother, to bring her to you. But you must receive the girl from us safe, and you must deliver her safe. If she burns herself, if she runs away, if she jumps, you are responsible."
Another student: He has no policy.
Another student: They all have a policy.
Another student: By Allah, he wants a policy for this. This is like a gazelle coming from the desert; he wants to tame it a little.
Another student: Not always, O Shaykh.
Another student: There is a gazelle you can catch, and there is a gazelle you cannot catch; it escapes from you and you are unable to catch it.
The questioner : Is it permissible to force her?
The Shaykh : How?
The questioner : Is it permissible to force her?
The Shaykh : No.
The questioner : And is this contract established...
Another questioner: People are dragged into Paradise with chains, is that correct?
The questioner : Not through this door.
Another questioner: Generally, if she says, "I want the wicked one," and this one comes, she says, "This is the one who does not pray."
The Shaykh : Where did you get the generality from?
The questioner : No, no, do not marry her to him.
The Shaykh : They are dragged with chains, and you dragged the hadith toward you with chains.
The student: He does not marry her to the wicked one, O Shaykh, but at the same time, he does not force her; he prevents her from marrying until she is satisfied with the righteous one.
Another student: This is the correct statement.
Another student: Yes, if he marries her to the wicked one, he becomes more wicked than her and more wicked than him; he becomes the wicked one himself.
Another student: He has the right to use his right of guardianship over her, so he does not marry her except to someone whose religion and character he approves of.
Another student: I am the judge, I swear to Allah, I am the judge. I said to him, "Either you take your whole right, do you hear, O Shaykh Abd al-Rahman?"
Another student : Yes, yes.
Another student: I said, "Either you take your right, that's it, and the girl has run away from you; she does not want you. She ran away at night from under the house."
Another student: The tent.
Another student: The tent, yes. And they go in cars to look for her. Their hearts were torn apart. They said, "Now, a drunkard or a criminal will find her, execute her, and throw her away." I said to him, "Either you take your right. Listen to my advice." He said, "And the second?" I said to him, "The second is that I am with you. You submit a petition to the Prince, and he will transfer you to... saying that the group married me and the girl is with them in the house, and they will bring you and them to... and the ruling there with the judge, no one enters, no one enters at all, not me and not you and not...
And the third is that the group likes you. The one who married you likes the man. By Allah, the man is good, noble, generous, brave, and kind. We do not praise anyone beyond what is due to Allah, but this is what I know of the man. The third, I said to him, "Now they will go and bring the girl, tie her up, and bring her to you, and deliver her to you safe. But look, you must hold onto the girl. Do not embarrass yourself. Do not let her run away... in her own person, you are responsible for her."
The Shaykh : This is not practical. This is not practical.
The student: He said, "I cannot. The man came out wiser than all of us. He said, 'No, by Allah, I cannot do this.'"
Another student: His pride in himself is very great. O Shaykh, if he were tested with one of this type.
Another student: Praise be to Allah who has spared us from what He has tested him with, my brother.
Another student: Say it like this. Say this, meaning you... for this matter. Perhaps he can bring her in and tame her. Say, "Not every gazelle can you handle."
Another student: He said, "Do you know, O Abu Saleh...
The Shaykh : ...
The student: But intentionally, O Shaykh...
Another student: He conceded, but Abd al-Rahman.
Another student: Huh?
Another student: The man has conceded, and Shaykh Abd al-Rahman is determined.
Another student: Praise be to Allah.
Another student: May Allah not make you a judge.
Another student: No, but he thinks that every man can tame this girl. First of all, this varies.