Is it permissible for a son to use his father's mobile phone, which was acquired through haram (forbidden) means? And why is the money earned in a commercial transaction through that mobile phone haram (forbidden)?

The questioner : He said that if his father knew, he would get angry or something. He meant it was not done secretly from his father, but rather what I understood from him was that he said, "Use the phone." And in his conviction, this phone was acquired with haram (forbidden) money. So, the fact that he made a call on this phone, which is from haram (forbidden) money, resulted in him receiving money. He received money, he received specific money. This was the source of the question.

The Shaykh : And we answered him about it.

The questioner : Yes, it is haram (forbidden).

The Shaykh : We did not answer him about it.

The questioner : Yes, exactly.

The Shaykh : We said that he used the device, and I told him, but I told him I would explain to him, so I explained. We also gave him another answer. We told him that his father’s money is haram (forbidden). His use of this haram (forbidden) money to acquire money without his father’s permission involves two sins here: that he used the device acquired in a haram (forbidden) way, and he used it to fulfill his personal needs, earning for himself without his father’s permission.

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : So, the violation here is double.

The questioner : Our Shaykh, if the violation were only one, does that mean only all the money is haram (forbidden)? I mean, this phone, since it was used without permission, or...

The Shaykh : All the money?

The questioner : The money...

The Shaykh : What is the "all the money" that you mean now?

The questioner : What he acquires, my Shaykh, the money he acquires. I mean, he said he called a merchant, assuming the type of trade is halal (lawful) and there is nothing wrong with it, and based on that, some profit was made, for example. Does this make all the money haram (forbidden)? This is the concern he has?

The Shaykh : My brother, what do you mean by "all the money"? The capital plus its profit?

The questioner: Yes.

The Shaykh : I do not think so.

The questioner : The profit, the profit, yes?

The Shaykh : Did you see how it is? So, all the profit, not all the money?

The questioner : All the profit, yes.

The Shaykh : Of course, or what does it mean that this is not permissible? If we said, "No, this profit is halal (lawful)," what would be haram (forbidden)?

Another questioner : ..

The Shaykh : Yes?

Another questioner : Is there originally any money in it?

The Shaykh : Correct, there is none.

Another questioner : And there is no money in it.

The Shaykh : He sold what he did not have.

Another questioner : Correct.

The Shaykh : And he asked, but...

Another questioner : There is no capital in the transaction.

Another questioner : ...

Another questioner : There is no capital, professor, because he told him, "I want to sell goods like this on the phone," and he does not possess them, and he told him, "Bring the money plus the profit so I can get them for you." This means there is no money.

Another questioner : ... The brother is only asking about the phone.

Another questioner : The phone is haram (forbidden), and he has samples of the goods. Suppose he has samples of the goods, as you mentioned.The Shaykh : And he just used the haram (forbidden) phone. Is the profit he earned haram (forbidden) or halal (lawful)? Is that what he meant?

The Shaykh : No, it is haram (forbidden).

Another questioner : Yes, that is what he meant.
onAl-Halabi : There is more than one issue, ... this is its beginning.

The Shaykh : Yes, exactly.

Another questioner : It starts with a phone...

The Shaykh : Oh God.

Another questioner : Well, my Shaykh, now, even if he used a phone to call...Abu Layla : For example, on this phone, which...?

The Shaykh : If his father permits such a call, it is permissible for him; otherwise, it is haram (forbidden) for him. There is no material profit here.

Another questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : There is a connection between him and his friend, his relatives, and so on.

Another questioner : Yes.

The Shaykh : All of that must be with the father’s permission.

Another questioner : Abu Ma’har.

Another questioner : Abu Ma’har, let the women leave, may Allah be pleased with you, because they are in lines, what Allah willed. Before Abu Ma’har asks.

Another questioner : Because, my Shaykh, because the question is paid for, that is why Abu 'Abdullah wants to smuggle the women out, because the question relates to women...

Another questioner : Let...

Another questioner : We want to hear it from them...

Another questioner : Our Shaykh, you mentioned...

The Shaykh : Wait a moment, what do you have?

The questioner : There is a question regarding women.

The Shaykh : Because these are our brothers, we always call them.

The questioner : Nice.

The Shaykh : As for us, we do not get to see you, Allah knows when.